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What pivotal US laws were uniquely inspired by the 10 commandments?

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  • #91
    Originally posted by seer View Post

    This thread is not about what should be made illegal in law or not. Like I said awhile back, posting the Ten Commandments tell kids that there are universal moral truths and a God, and hope.
    It’s written on their hearts, though.

    Originally posted by seer View Post
    With out such, all morality is relative, life is ultimately meaningless, human rights are a fiction and humans have no inherent worth. That whag is what you are offering our kids. Like I said all you have to offer is hopelessness and death.No wonder their mental health in the tank.
    Children won’t honor the sabbath because a poster tells them such.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by whag View Post

      It’s written on their hearts, though.



      Children won’t honor the sabbath because a poster tells them such.
      Scripture Verse: Proverbs 22:6

      Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.

      © Copyright Original Source

      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

        Scripture Verse: Proverbs 22:6

        Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.

        © Copyright Original Source

        Exactly. It might possibly transfer with rigorous indoctrination—quite often, it spectacularly fails—but it’s naive to think outmoded moral pronouncements displayed on cheesy posters have any effect.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by seer View Post
          It was much more than a tack on and did not only include the TC. But I don't expect you to be honest Roy.
          Of course you don't. But that's because of your bias, and doesn't reflect badly on me.

          Honesty on my part involves acknowledging that the 10 commandments were added to English law by Alfred the Great, and that that was the first law code that applied to most of what is now England.

          Honesty on your part requires acknowledging that there were English law codes before that which did not include the 10 commandments; that Alfred only put the commandments in the preface to his law code, not among the laws themselves; and that the ten commandments were removed from English law long before the founding of the US.
          Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

          MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
          MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

          seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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          • #95
            Originally posted by whag View Post
            Stop using bolded lavender, seer. It’s annoying.
            Perhaps seer imagines himself as a "laddy" in lavender!

            Or is it his penchant for purple prose?
            "It ain't necessarily so
            The things that you're liable
            To read in the Bible
            It ain't necessarily so
            ."

            Sportin' Life
            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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            • #96
              Originally posted by seer View Post

              We are speaking of the obvious Biblical influence on the founding and history of this country. I'm not sure why you are getting hung up on this unique thing.
              You are completely overlooking the fact that the FFs were all educated men from the Enlightenment and Age of Reason and that included attitudes towards religion. Both Franklin and Jefferson spent time in France and were no doubt exposed to the ideas of Voltaire and Diderot, among others.
              "It ain't necessarily so
              The things that you're liable
              To read in the Bible
              It ain't necessarily so
              ."

              Sportin' Life
              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                Perhaps seer imagines himself as a "laddy" in lavender!

                Or is it his penchant for purple prose?
                It's strange to see you of all people succumb to vulgar stereotype humour. I would have imagined that beneath you.
                P1) If , then I win.

                P2)

                C) I win.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                  Also, George's Washington's Thanksgiving Proclamation is not the words of a deist in any way, shape, or form. Honestly, I get so tired of the old chestnut that the Founding Fathers were all deists and nominal Christians.
                  Did Washington personally equate "Almighty God" with "that great and glorious Being"?

                  To a certain extent, politicians have to say what people want to hear. His own religious ideas may have been quite different. He was certainly not a habitual church-goer. And Tom Paine was an atheist.
                  "It ain't necessarily so
                  The things that you're liable
                  To read in the Bible
                  It ain't necessarily so
                  ."

                  Sportin' Life
                  Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                    Did Washington personally equate "Almighty God" with "that great and glorious Being"?

                    To a certain extent, politicians have to say what people want to hear. His own religious ideas may have been quite different. He was certainly not a habitual church-goer. And Tom Paine was an atheist.
                    There is no evidence so suggest that George Washington's religious beliefs differed from those expressed in his speeches and personal writings.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                      You are completely overlooking the fact that the FFs were all educated men from the Enlightenment and Age of Reason and that included attitudes towards religion. Both Franklin and Jefferson spent time in France and were no doubt exposed to the ideas of Voltaire and Diderot, among others.
                      No they were not all influenced by the Enlightenment, like I linked the majority were Christian. And when Jefferson made castration the penalty for the crime of sodomy in he Virginia Law Code, was that enlightened? And BTW the Founders, including Jefferson, were much more influenced by the works of Locke. Who tied human rights directly to the God of the Bible.
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                      • Originally posted by whag View Post

                        It’s written on their hearts, though.

                        Except being sinners by nature we all need reminding, often...
                        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                        • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                          Did Washington personally equate "Almighty God" with "that great and glorious Being"?

                          To a certain extent, politicians have to say what people want to hear. His own religious ideas may have been quite different. He was certainly not a habitual church-goer. And Tom Paine was an atheist.
                          Tom Paine was a Deist...
                          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                          • Originally posted by seer View Post

                            Tom Paine was a Deist...
                            Well... barely.
                            "It ain't necessarily so
                            The things that you're liable
                            To read in the Bible
                            It ain't necessarily so
                            ."

                            Sportin' Life
                            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                            • Originally posted by seer View Post

                              No they were not all influenced by the Enlightenment, like I linked the majority were Christian. And when Jefferson made castration the penalty for the crime of sodomy in he Virginia Law Code, was that enlightened? And BTW the Founders, including Jefferson, were much more influenced by the works of Locke. Who tied human rights directly to the God of the Bible.
                              That depends on exactly what particular writings of Locke influenced them.
                              "It ain't necessarily so
                              The things that you're liable
                              To read in the Bible
                              It ain't necessarily so
                              ."

                              Sportin' Life
                              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                              • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                                There is no evidence so suggest that George Washington's religious beliefs differed from those expressed in his speeches and personal writings.
                                According to Edward G Lengel, a biographer of Washington:

                                Was Washington a Christian? If anyone asked him, he might well have said yes. He was familiar with the Bible and even quoted it on occasion. But did he truly believe? That is an entirely different matter. Intelligent arguments can and have been made on both sides of the subject. Ultimately, however, they all come down to speculation. Thanks in large part to Washington’s own efforts—he concealed his inner feelings from everyone, except perhaps Martha— we can never really know exactly what he did or did not believe about God. Alas, this truth remains unsatisfying. Americans have never really accepted it and probably never will.
                                "It ain't necessarily so
                                The things that you're liable
                                To read in the Bible
                                It ain't necessarily so
                                ."

                                Sportin' Life
                                Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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