Canada’s Medical Assistance in Dying Law

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

I guess Canada has gone full Soylent Green now (they had suicide centers where people who didn't want to live any more could go to die, while watching scenes of a long gone earth.

SG is set in 2022, so Canada is only a few years behind.

Hardly! Unless there are proposals to use the bodies as a food.

[Ronson]

I've never understood "assisted" suicide. Unless someone is completely lame, no assistance in such an act is necessary. Having said this, I believe any sort of pain-relieving drug should be made available for terminally ill patients. It is cruel to allow someone to die slowly in pain when they could be loaded up with heroin. So, IMO, everything should be done to relieve suffering - short of "assisting" someone to end their life.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

I've never understood "assisted" suicide. Unless someone is completely lame, no assistance in such an act is necessary. Having said this, I believe any sort of pain-relieving drug should be made available for terminally ill patients. It is cruel to allow someone to die slowly in pain when they could be loaded up with heroin. So, IMO, everything should be done to relieve suffering - short of "assisting" someone to end their life.

There are many ways to commit suicide. However, some are less painful and messy than others. Slashing one's wrists in the bath can be painful and jumping in front of a moving loco is very quick for the victim, but pity the poor driver and those who have to collect the bits.

[Diogenes]

This is a summation of Canada's MAiD program:

RCMP called to investigate multiple cases of veterans being offered medically assisted death

Canadian man claims assisted suicide is being pushed on him by hospital


Some Canadian Health Care Patients Say They're Being Encouraged To Just Die Already


MAiD is so much a joke, "MAiD as healthcare" has its own know your meme page.

Also, unless your friend is from the Alberta or Saskatchewan, they're not likely to encounter any "religious" individuals.

[Sparko]

That was a direct lift from the law itself. I should have told you that.

Well that explains the weasel language then. The government wants the law to be as vague as possible so they can sneak in more death.

Okay, let’s limit it to just people who we all agree has an unbearable physical condition that can’t be cured. Are you really saying you believe there’s no such thing as an unbearable physical condition?

Again "unbearable" is a subjective term. That girl in europe who wanted to kill herself because she was depressed claimed her condition was "unbearable."

What if someone became a paraplegic in an accident and decided using a wheel chair was "unbearable" and wanted to kill himself? Or someone who had a disfiguring mark on their face they found "unbearable?"

There are physical conditions that would prevent a person from doing the act himself. Can the state assist in that case?

I think if someone has a terminal condition that cannot be treated and the pain would become too great to treat, then maybe. I would have to think about it more, and consider some real examples. My biggest worry is just like with abortion, what is billed as something that should be safe, legal and rare, assisted suicide will become "safe, legal, and common - for any reason whatsoever"

[rogue06]

Well that explains the weasel language then. The government wants the law to be as vague as possible so they can sneak in more death.



Again "unbearable" is a subjective term. That girl in europe who wanted to kill herself because she was depressed claimed her condition was "unbearable."

What if someone became a paraplegic in an accident and decided using a wheel chair was "unbearable" and wanted to kill himself? Or someone who had a disfiguring mark on their face they found "unbearable?"




I think if someone has a terminal condition that cannot be treated and the pain would become too great to treat, then maybe. I would have to think about it more, and consider some real examples. My biggest worry is just like with abortion, what is billed as something that should be safe, legal and rare, assisted suicide will become "safe, legal, and common - for any reason whatsoever"

Suicidal thoughts increase markedly after a break up or divorce. Some may consider it unbearable.

[Roy]

Sparko: Canada’s killing depressed people to save money!

Also Sparko: Canada’s not killing its convicted murderers, thereby requiring the state to fund their continued existence.

Ironically, not killing convicted murderers is actually cheaper.

[Diogenes]

Ironically, not killing convicted murderers is actually cheaper.

Only because of the appeals process. There are Canadian government studies on how much money would be saved in healthcare costs by simply promoting MAiD.

[Sparko]

Ironically, not killing convicted murderers is actually cheaper.

I said that. https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum...56#post1594856



Whag was misrepresenting what I said.

[whag]

I said that. https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum...56#post1594856


Whag was misrepresenting what I said.

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[whag]

Only because of the appeals process. There are Canadian government studies on how much money would be saved in healthcare costs by simply promoting MAiD.

I’d concede the few who would possibly be executed if the death penalty remained is much smaller than those currently choosing to die under MAiD.

[Sparko]

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https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum...56#post1594856

[Ronson]

Ironically, not killing convicted murderers is actually cheaper.

And it gives those who were wrongly convicted hope that DNA evidence will finally rescue them.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

An interesting take on a thread that was initially about assisted suicide, to a discussion on the benefits, or not, of capital punishment.