From a Christian perspective, there are some figures who are looked back on in the Old Testament who are examples of true faith like David, and we know David did his share of horrible things. On the other hand, he repented. The leaders who were slave owners, for the most part, never saw a problem with what they did so their legacy is different. I wouldn't say different in the sense that it undoes all the good they ever did but it is a mixed legacy to be sure.
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"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postdon't give them any ideasMicah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostFrom a Christian perspective, there are some figures who are looked back on in the Old Testament who are examples of true faith like David, and we know David did his share of horrible things. On the other hand, he repented. The leaders who were slave owners, for the most part, never saw a problem with what they did so their legacy is different. I wouldn't say different in the sense that it undoes all the good they ever did but it is a mixed legacy to be sure.
Also, it's impossible to find historical figures who are completely innocent. Do you think native american symbolism should also be removed from the public square in light of the fact that they also owned slaves and waged war on the united states like the confederacy did?"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI'm not sure what they think erasing history will accomplish.
Next thing you know, they're going to want to tear up the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution because they were written by white slave owners.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostAlso, it's impossible to find historical figures who are completely innocent."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by seer View PostThese people won't stop until the Jefferson Memorial is gone too... This will not end well...
Only people who make failed half effort to stop them are nazis, also other bunch of goons!! Right will just sit back and let it happen.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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I think statues celebrating confederate figures should be moved out of public urban spaces and into museums. It is offensive to both blacks and American patriots to be publicly celebrating people who fought a war against America to maintain the practice of slavery. Having statues of such people in public urban spaces is inappropriate, and historical museums are the correct place for such statues where people can go to learn about the history.
The Stone Mountain is a case where nothing needs to be done IMO - it is already in an out-of-the-way location (people are not being forced to walk past it daily like they are with a monument in a public square) and is essentially a 'museum' already."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostFrom a Christian perspective, there are some figures who are looked back on in the Old Testament who are examples of true faith like David, and we know David did his share of horrible things. On the other hand, he repented. The leaders who were slave owners, for the most part, never saw a problem with what they did so their legacy is different. I wouldn't say different in the sense that it undoes all the good they ever did but it is a mixed legacy to be sure.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by TheWall View PostSo what about stonewall Jackson who actively helped black Americans?"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI believe statues are inherently idolatrous anyway.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostThe side he was fighting on was the one fighting to keep slavery legal so I think that dwarfs whatever he did in his personal life.
Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostTranslation: 'he defended homeland, also countrymen and family! Terrible!!!'
"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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