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Originally posted by Starlight View Posthttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-vice-news-hbo
When they're doing it at night, with torches, and there's violence and someone dies, then they've crossed a line."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostMy point is that if you start screaming nazi slogans and start to make claims that support those sick ideas, then you should not be too surprised if some idiots actually start to take action and go for what follows from the words you say.
I guess there are certain words or statements you would have prevented your children from hearing?
I guess there are certain associations you would not want them to be inspireded by? So "Blut und Boden" (just to many one example) are words, yes, and feel free to neglect it. But those words were used to, and are still used to support a murderous ideology.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostBecause they were not the focus of violent Nazi, Antisemitic hate groups when Obama was in power. Back then, they had to make do with birther-ism and other less violent racist ploys.
Sigh!
Where would you lot be without the slippery slope fallacy to invoke whenever a new law or decision is made of which you disapprove?
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Originally posted by Charles View PostMy point is that if you start screaming nazi slogans and start to make claims that support those sick ideas, then you should not be too surprised if some idiots actually start to take action and go for what follows from the words you say. I guess there are certain words or statements you would have prevented your children from hearing? I guess there are certain associations you would not want them to be inspireded by? So "Blut und Boden" (just to many one example) are words, yes, and feel free to neglect it. But those words were used to, and are still used to support a murderous ideology.
I have no problem with people protesting peacefully against such people, but unless it is in self-defense, they have no right to attack even white supremacists or nazis who are expressing their views, hateful though they be.
Do you agree?
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
Manson claimed inspiration from the White Album. Shall we say the Beatles are to blame for the Manson Family murders?
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostThen you blame the idiot himself.
Wholly irrelevant.
Manson claimed inspiration from the White Album. Shall we say the Beatles are to blame for the Manson Family murders?Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostCharlie seems to have never heard of free speech. People who say things I find despicable still have a right to say those things.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostFreedom of speech was not intended to allow hate speech that incites violence towards groups on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation. And this is what we get in spades from the KKK White Supremacists and anti-Semites that largely make up the Alt-Right.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostManson was a deranged individual and cannot be compared in any way to the long murderous history of the KKK and Nazism.
This is what we saw in full force at Charlotteville.
There is no place for such ideology in the free world
and it is staggering that the likes of you (and Trump) seek to rationalise it to the extent of blaming those protesting against it for the violence.
Are there NO lengths to which you lot will not go to ensure your own agenda re the Supreme Court and a return to the hatred and bigotry of 'the good ole' days' of discrimination against LGBT's and blacks?That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by seer View PostYes Tass, freedom of speech exactly does allow hate speech. You can't call for killing or attacking someone else, you know like Antifa, but it does allow for hateful speech. Besides who get to decide what is hateful - you?That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostFreedom of speech was not intended to allow hate speech that incites violence towards groups on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation. And this is what we get in spades from the KKK White Supremacists and anti-Semites that largely make up the Alt-Right.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Note the "peaceably assemble" bit. That means neither the Nazi's or the Antifa can assemble to riot and bash each other's brains in with baseball bats and rocks.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostFreedom of speech was not intended to allow hate speech that incites violence towards groups on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation. And this is what we get in spades from the KKK White Supremacists and anti-Semites that largely make up the Alt-Right.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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