Snopes finally admits old Joe showered with his daughter

[Cow Poke]

Because one thing is not the other thing, just as I might say that the Book of John was written by John the Disciple but John 8:1-12 was not.

Yeah, this clearly ain't that.

The excerpt was likely written by Biden.

"likely"?

The way in which the diary was stolen, peddled, and leaked gives reason for caution.

Wow, so now you're going to pretend that there was stuff added to her diary, and she totally missed that in her letter to the judge? How incredibly 'unserious'.

And if you can't grok a simple distinction like that, you really have no business opining on what the writer might mean on that diary page, given the content's inherent ambiguities.

-Sam

Sam, you are SO full of yourself it's hilarious!

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

I DO?



No, ma'am --- she appears to have pretty much had free rein dealing with sexual encounters. She writes that in ... you now.... the diary that is "presumably" hers.

I think we are even.

I omitted the adverb and you typed now instead of know.

[Cow Poke]

I think we are even.

I omitted the adverb and you typed now instead of know.

Ah, c'mon, let's try to top one another!

[Mountain Man]

Because one thing is not the other thing, just as I might say that the Book of John was written by John the Disciple but John 8:1-12 was not.

The excerpt was likely written by Biden. The way in which the diary was stolen, peddled, and leaked gives reason for caution. And if you can't grok a simple distinction like that, you really have no business opining on what the writer might mean on that diary page, given the content's inherent ambiguities.

-Sam

Ashley has never denied that she wrote it, and she surely would have if she hadn't, because it's utterly damning to old Joe.

[Mountain Man]

I think the bare minimum would have been for Joe not to have taken showers with his daughter, and God knows what else he did to those two.

Considering what he has gotten up to in full view of the public, I can't imagine he would hold back in private.

[Cow Poke]

I think the bare minimum ...

I see what you did there.

[seanD]

Considering what he has gotten up to in full view of the public, I can't imagine he would hold back in private.

Perhaps he even normalized it in his mind in a sense that he didn't think anything he was doing was wrong. Maybe that will be less difficult for the Biden shills to believe if we assume it wasn't like he was doing something he believed was sinister, evident by the creepy way he acts towards children in full public view (that most would say is inappropriate behavior of an adult male under any other other circumstances).

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Yeah, shoulda stuck with the facts of the case and not drift off into unrelated minutia.



And, here ya go, Sam - "presumably"? You honestly believe there's any doubt that Ashely is the author? I would believe that if it were coming from JimL - but you?

Newsweek....

Biden also wrote, "I will forever have to deal with the fact that my personal journal can be viewed online." This letter, Snopes argued, authenticated the diary's contents which had been printed online.

Biden also said that her "innermost thoughts" recorded in the diary had been "constantly distorted and manipulated," and assumed that the point of the theft was to "peddle grotesque lies by distorting my stream-of-consciousness thoughts."

Why would she be writing about "my personal journal" to a judge, if it were not her ... um... "personal journal".

Fail harder, Sam.

What you quoted here is very telling:

Biden also said that her "innermost thoughts" recorded in the diary had been "constantly distorted and manipulated,"

Perhaps some here would like to rethink their attitude towards her father

[Roy]

Going by the context of being hypersexualized at a young age, I would put the time at during or after puberty.

She was a small girl and Joe Biden is 6 foot tall. The likely juxtaposition is that his genitals were close to her face level.

If it was after puberty, or even during late puberty, she would no longer be a small girl. So unless Ashley Biden is a dwarf or Joe Biden has legs up to his armpits, that juxtaposition would not occur.

Nor are Ashley and Joe that different in height - 5'7" vs 6'0".

So stop claiming both "small girl" and "during or after puberty". They can't both be true.

[Cow Poke]

What you quoted here is very telling:

Biden also said that her "innermost thoughts" recorded in the diary had been "constantly distorted and manipulated,"

Perhaps some here would like to rethink their attitude towards her father

She's embarrassed that what she wrote became public. I would be, too. Doesn't change what she wrote. Doesn't change what she said happened.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

She's embarrassed that what she wrote became public.

Firstly, that is not what she wrote, and secondly, how do you know "She's embarrassed that what she wrote became public"?

What she wrote has not changed but distortion and manipulation of what she wrote does affect what and how people think.

[Cow Poke]

Firstly, that is not what she wrote, and secondly, how do you know "She's embarrassed that what she wrote became public"?

From the letter she wrote to the judge.

What she wrote has not changed

Correctomundo!

but distortion and manipulation of what she wrote does affect what and how people think.

That's her spin on what she wrote, but she wrote what she wrote.

[Mountain Man]

Firstly, that is not what she wrote, and secondly, how do you know "She's embarrassed that what she wrote became public"?

What she wrote has not changed but distortion and manipulation of what she wrote does affect what and how people think.

That's what she says, but it's curious that she has never denied, retracted, or even attempted to clarify the passage where she linked being molested and traumatized to "showers w/ my dad". For that matter, even if we ignored the rest of the page, a simple undistorted, unmanipulated plain reading of the statement "showers w/ my dad (probably not appropriate)" is damning in and of itself.

[Cow Poke]

That's what she says, but it's curious that she has never denied, retracted, or even attempted to clarify the passage where she linked being molested and traumatized to "showers w/ my dad". For that matter, even if we ignored the rest of the page, a simple undistorted, unmanipulated plain reading of the statement "showers w/ my dad (probably not appropriate)" is damning enough in and of itself.

You just don't understand, MM -- you have to ignore that part because... well, it's not Trump!

[rogue06]

I really feel sorry for Ashley. She had a terrible childhood. I am also starting to understand how much Hunter is like his father.

Prolly why old Joe has declared that Hunter is the smartest man in the world.