How long can Netanyahu survive in power?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

FWICT, you have never "condemned" the October 7th attack, but instead repeatedly said that you won't "condone" it.

There's a world of difference between refusing to condone an action and condemning the action.

You can do your own trawl of this site.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Please note that the New York Times article that you dutifully ignored cites both "Arab and Western officials" as corroborating the general claim.

That article was written on 27 October 2023, twenty days after the attack.

What evidence are you providing to illustrate that the situation is the same now as it was nearly seven months ago?

[Cow Poke]

You can do your own trawl of this site.

...However, you are welcome to trawl through the site....

...You are welcome to trawl this site....

Learned a new English word, did we?

[Roy]

Unlike Hamas, Israel is not deliberately targeting innocent civilians.

Yet you call me ignorant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flour_massacre
https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassin...-bombing-gaza/

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Learned a new English word, did we?

No. But the word is apposite.

[Cow Poke]

No. But the word is apposite.

No, it's 'trawl'.

[eider]

No mass killing of civilians and children is not OK. That is why Israel hit back when HAMAS did it on October 7. HAMAS started it. HAMAS is the one hiding behind women and children while lobbing attacks at Israel.

That's really crank thinking.
Because terrorists commited serious outrages you support the killing of 35000 civilians and children.

That's no good at all.

[eider]

The point that you are wholly incapable of comprehending is that you don't allow your enemy to continue to be resupplied if you can help it. That's pretty much a basic "rule" of warfare.

So much for your comprehension!
I mention one thing and you pick another subject altogether.

Reference your smug point, above, Israel's leadership is causing starvation and thirst amongst thousands and civilians and children. What do you think so many are calling out about?

[Cow Poke]

That's really crank thinking.
Because terrorists commited serious outrages you support the killing of 35000 civilians and children.

That's no good at all.

A) Just out of curiosity, from whence does the 35,000 number come?
2) Are you suggesting that those individuals were purposely targeted by Israel?

[rogue06]

That article was written on 27 October 2023, twenty days after the attack.

Can't get nothing by you can I? It's not like I started that post with

From last year but still pertinent

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There is absolutely nothing to suggest that the situation has changed. A couple months after the NYT article that you "snipped for relevance" Jake Tapper on CNN ran a story that featured Palestinians complaining that Hamas steals all the food and other supplies that make it into Gaza. It included an aerial video of Hamas forces stopping a shipment, beating the driver, and loading everything on to their own trucks and disappearing with it.

The usual rejoinder is that is only a small drop in the bucket compared to what Israel refuses to allow in. That may be true, but what does get in tends to vanish before it gets to the people in need.

[rogue06]

You can do your own trawl of this site.

IOW, you just finished looking and couldn't find a single instance of you condemning the attack like you pretended that you did. Just a bunch of "I don't condone"

[Mountain Man]

From last year but still pertinent

As Gazans Scrounge for Food and Water, Hamas Sits on a Rich Trove of Supplies

Hamas has spent years stockpiling desperately needed fuel, food and medicine, as well as ammo and weapons, in the miles of tunnels it has carved out under Gaza.

As supplies of virtually every basic human necessity dwindle in Gaza, one group in the besieged enclave remains well-stocked: Hamas.

Arab and Western officials say there is substance to Israeli claims of Hamas stockpiling supplies, including desperately needed food and fuel. Hamas, they say, has spent years building dozens of kilometers of tunnels under the strip where it has amassed stores of virtually everything needed for a drawn-out fight. It is a reality that Israel may soon find itself grappling with if it makes good on its threat to invade Gaza.

Hamas has hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel for vehicles and rockets; caches of ammunition, explosives and materials to make more; and stockpiles of food, water and medicine, the officials said. A senior Lebanese official said Hamas, which is estimated to number between 35,000 and 40,000, had enough stocked away to keep fighting for three to four months without resupply.

One of the four Israeli hostages released by Hamas even described the group providing captives with medicine, shampoo and feminine hygiene products. All are now said to be extraordinarily scarce in Gaza more than two weeks after Israel, aided by Egypt, imposed what it called a “complete” blockade following the attack by the terrorist group on Oct. 7.

The Arab and Western officials who described Hamas’s supply situation all spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were disclosing information gleaned from human sources, communications intercepts and other streams of intelligence. The stockpiles are typically kept underground, they said, and cautioned that precise details on Hamas’s supplies were difficult to come by.

While the blockade has left Gaza’s roughly 2 million people scraping by with what little food and water they scrounge up, it does not yet appear to have begun to degrade Hamas’s ability to fight. The group has launched hundreds of rockets at Israel since the blockade began and have fended off preliminary Israeli incursions into the enclave.

The supply situation speaks to the relative sophistication of Hamas as a fighting force — an axiom among military professionals is that while amateurs talk about tactics, professionals talk about logistics. Yet with Gazans facing a humanitarian catastrophe, Hamas’s stockpiles raise questions about what responsibility, if any, it has to the civilian population.

History abounds of well-supplied armies fighting on the front lines while the home front went hungry. Germans, for instance, endured what became known as the “Turnip Winter” at the height of World War I, even as the Kaiser’s armies were well provisioned. They eventually lost and the German Empire fell.

Stories like this are extremely easy to find with a simple internet search, but it works better for Hypatia_Alexandria's agenda if she remains willfully ignorant.

[eider]

A) Just out of curiosity, from whence does the 35,000 number come?

Oh no!
You don't believe that the IDF killed any civilians and children?
That's a bit sick,.

2) Are you suggesting that those individuals were purposely targeted by Israel?

Recklessly, carelessly, hatefully.

[Sparko]

That's really crank thinking.
Because terrorists commited serious outrages you support the killing of 35000 civilians and children.

That's no good at all.

1. The Palestinian people as a group are not innocent. They elected Hamas and they share the sentiment of destroying Israel and establishing Palestine as the replacement country. Hamas would not exist if it were not for this sentiment and the people letting Hamas do things like October 7.
2. Hamas uses the civilians as human shields and the evidence points to the civilians allowing this to occur. If they die when Israel hits Hamas targets, it it collateral damage. When Hamas hits Israel like on October 7, civilians ARE their primary target.
3. Israel did not start this. Hamas did.

[Cow Poke]

Oh no!
You don't believe that the IDF killed any civilians and children?
That's a bit sick,.

As per usual, you avoid the question and turn to jackassery.

I'll ask again - where did you get the number 35,000?

Recklessly, carelessly, hatefully.

So, again --- doofus response.