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[Juvenal]

I haven't been following the latest rounds of negotiations that closely... but at one point it was suggested that Hamas had no hostages left - that those they hadn't released had been killed by the Israeli bombings. Has Hamas actually said they do still have live hostages?

Hamas leadership hasn't said how many hostages are still alive (nor does it know with any precision). US/Israeli intelligence purportedly knows data regarding some hostages. It's estimated that around 75% of the hostages remaining after the last exchange are still alive (but that number also lacks precision).

-Sam

By my reckoning, based on the framework of the current deal, somewhere between 33 and 75 living hostages remain.

• In the first phase of the current deal 33 living hostages are to be released over 33 days, with a full accounting of living hostages to be released at the end of the first week.
• In the second phase scheduled to last 42 days, an undefined number of living hostages will be released.
• In the third phase also scheduled to last 42 days, bodies of deceased hostages will be released.

Report: Israeli Commitment to Stay Out of Gaza Not Included in Egyptian Cease-fire Proposal
The proposal details that 33 hostages would be released in the first phase of a deal in exchange for a full IDF retreat from most of Gaza and the release of Palestinian prisoners. A plan to rebuild Gaza would be implemented in the final phase
Jack Khoury
May 1, 2024
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The Lebanese newspaper Al Akhbar daily published the details of the Egyptian proposal for a cease-fire, as it was delivered to Hamas, with guarantees by Egypt, Qatar and the United States.

The wording of the proposal does not include an Israeli commitment not to return to the Gaza Strip, but "a return to ongoing quiet and the implementation of whatever is necessary to achieve a cease-fire."

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According to the proposal, in the first phase, the IDF's activities in the Gaza Strip will be suspended for 40 days, during which the forces will withdraw from the populated areas and those close to the border with Israel, but not from the Netzarim corridor in the center of the Gaza Strip.

During this time period, three hostages will be released every three days, first women – including female soldiers, until the 33rd day. Israel will at the same timeframe release Palestinian prisoners according to a list that will be agreed upon by the parties.

On the seventh day of the deal, Hamas will submit a list of all the living hostages, except for the 33 that will be released in the first stage.

According to the proposal, for every female soldier that is released, Israel will release 40 Palestinian women prisoners, half of whom are sentenced to life and the other half whose remaining sentence does not exceed ten years.

For every man released – those sick, wounded and over 50-years-old – Israel will release 20 prisoners over 50, sick and wounded who have up to ten years left in prison. According to the proposal, any of the prisoners sentenced to life imprisonment can be sent abroad or to Gaza.

During this period of time, on the days when hostages are released, there will be no air traffic of IDF planes and drones in the Strip for eight to ten hours a day. It will also be agreed that Israel will allow all citizens to return to their areas of residence, give them full freedom of movement throughout the Strip and allow the entry of humanitarian aid.

On the 22nd day of the deal, after two-thirds of the hostages are released, Israel will also withdraw from the Netzarim corridor in the center of the Gaza Strip to the corridor closest to the border, and increase the flow of humanitarian aid to the north of the Strip, so that 500 trucks will be sent there, including 50 fuel trucks.


Destruction in Gaza, on Tuesday.Credit: Abdel Kareem Hana / AP

On the 34th day of the deal, the second phase will begin, and will last 42 days. During this phase, Hamas will continue to release living hostages, including soldiers, in exchange for the release of Palestinian prisoners.

The proposal states that at this stage, the parties will start enacting the principles that will lead to a prolonged cease-fire, including the withdrawal of the IDF to the borderline. Not all of these principles are reported.

In the third phase, which will also last 42 days, bodies of hostages will be released, and after they are identified, a five-year rehabilitation plan will begin, in which the Palestinians will commit to not build infrastructure for military purposes, and will not receive raw materials that can be used for such purposes.

An Israeli delegation arrived in Cairo Wednesday morning for continued talks regarding a hostage deal, according to Egyptian officials who spoke to Al-Araby Al-Jadeed. Israel has not confirmed a delegation is in Cairo.

The sources said amendments that Hamas asked to make in the proposal have been sent on to the delegation, to be presented in meetings of the war cabinet.

On Tuesday, Hamas sources told Haaretz that the organization demands guarantees that Israel will not renew fighting in the Gaza Strip even months after the deal is actualized, as a condition for its completion. The sources also said there is worry in Hamas leadership that after the U.S. election, Israel will fill free to renew fighting, even if a deal is completed.

"We want a life for the Palestinians in Gaza," said one of the sources, "and that means stopping the war, a full Israeli retreat, rebuilding the Strip and a clear diplomatic plan."

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said Wednesday morning during a visit in Israel that the U.S. is "determined to get a cease-fire that brings the hostages home, and to get it now. And the only reason that that wouldn't be achieved is because of Hamas. There is a proposal on the table. And as we've said, no delays, no excuses. The time is now. And the time is now long past due to bring the hostages home to their families."

[Cow Poke]

Multiple defenders of Israel in this forum have told me that Israel needs to continue destroying Hamas until Hamas has no ability to ever attack Israel in the same way again.

Then your beef is with them, not me.

Do you disagree with them on that?

I think that's unreasonable, as Iran has other proxies.

That is not something related to the hostages and would suggest they would continue to advocate for Israel to destroy the Gazans even if the hostages were released.

You do realize that one of the requirements for posting on Tweb is that you can't be normal, right?

[Cow Poke]

If you can't strive to be good on a Sunday, at least strive to be nice.

-Sam

You found that on a fortune cookie, Sam?

[Sam]

You found that on a fortune cookie, Sam?

I hope it's not that foreign of a concept but please do take it in the spirit of simple, general advice.

-Sam

[NorrinRadd]

You never disappoint, Star.

Never fails to live down to expectations.

[Starlight]

Besides that, I don't think Star has any concept whatsoever of patriotism in the US.

An interesting claim. Perhaps you can explain it to me then, if you think there is something I fundamentally don't understand about the nature of US patriotism specifically?

[seer]

An interesting claim. Perhaps you can explain it to me then, if you think there is something I fundamentally don't understand about the nature of US patriotism specifically?

Because you say stupid unfounded things? Makes me queasy that people can be that mentally incapacitated, brainwashed, and evil.

[Cow Poke]

I hope it's not that foreign of a concept but please do take it in the spirit of simple, general advice.

-Sam

The fact that you think that people should act differently on one day of the week as opposed to others puts you in H_A's camp - she doesn't understand the Bible either.

[Cow Poke]

An interesting claim. Perhaps you can explain it to me then, if you think there is something I fundamentally don't understand about the nature of US patriotism specifically?

You may have a point - maybe it's not so much that you don't understand it, but that you hate it.

[seer]

You may have a point - maybe it's not so much that you don't understand it, but that you hate it.

[Juvenal]

An interesting claim. Perhaps you can explain it to me then, if you think there is something I fundamentally don't understand about the nature of US patriotism specifically?

There's diversity in the concept.

For some of us, it means loving our country, warts and all. For others, it means loving our country by denying it has warts. But for the most principled of patriots, it means preserving the constitution by storming the Capitol to prevent the peaceful transition of power guaranteed by the constitution.

In that, it's a lot like Christianity. The more intense the belief, the more the principles become stumbling blocks to belief.

[Cow Poke]

There's diversity in the concept.

I'll play!

For some of us, it means loving our country, warts and all.

"God mend thine every flaw" addresses that.... but phrases such as "America Right or Wrong" has always seemed... blah.

For others, it means loving our country by denying it has warts.

The former, yes, the latter, no.

But for the most principled of patriots, it means preserving the constitution by storming the Capitol to prevent the peaceful transition of power guaranteed by the constitution.

Something's wrong with that sentence - like you didn't say what you meant to say. Perhaps you meant something like "for some who think they are the most principled..."
I absolutely condemn the Capitol riot, and anybody who broke the law that day. Unfortunately, because I don't yell and scream and call it an "insurrection", then I'm obviously treasonous.

In that, it's a lot like Christianity. The more intense the belief, the more the principles become stumbling blocks to belief.

I believe our Country has many faults, but I still believe it's the greatest nation on the face of the earth.

[Sam]

The fact that you think that people should act differently on one day of the week as opposed to others puts you in H_A's camp - she doesn't understand the Bible either.

Not to be pedantic but the Bible clearly indicates that one day of the week should be treated differently than the others.

I'd consider it good manners and good grace to act as good on Wednesday and one would on Sunday. But if that proves too heavy a burden to bear, at least Sunday can be set apart.

-Sam

[Cow Poke]

Not to be pedantic but the Bible clearly indicates that one day of the week should be treated differently than the others.

Unfortunately, not in the way you implied.

I'd consider it good manners and good grace to act as good on Wednesday and one would on Sunday.

So, how bout modeling it!

[Sparko]

You have no idea what you're talking about, and lack the knowledge to know you have no idea what you're talking about. You've never drawn a free body diagram in your life. This is as clear a case of the Dunning-Kruger Syndrome as it gets.
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most of the weight would be his torso hanging from the shoulder side

For the safety of the general public, stay away from bridge design.

Then show me. I am not beyond admitting I am wrong when I am. I never claimed to be an engineer.

And you thought that was hilarious.

It was pretty funny.

The cop cinched the cuffs tight enough to cause pain and ignored the student's complaints because his intention was to teach the kid a lesson. "Don't mess with the GSP." They've got a reputation. When the kid decided not to play along and laid down, rather than pulling him upright decided to teach another lesson by showing him what pain from cuffs could really be like.

Now you are mind reading motives into a few second video.

Don't be a nazi.

Heed your own advise.