Columbia University - Remote Learning As Campus ‘Rancor’ Puts Jewish Students On Edge

[Sparko]

That's police brutality, and you think it's hilarious.

Don't be a nazi.

Funny, liberals seem to have the most in common with Nazis lately. Rioting, protesting FOR the destruction of Jews and Israel, supporting fascist terrorists like Hamas.

[Sparko]

Been a busy night.

Source: https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/riot-police-at-ucla-campus-close-in-after-night-of-violent-anti-israel-clashes

FAST FACTS

• The anti-Israel protest at Columbia University ended overnight Wednesday when NYPD infiltrated Hamilton Hall and cleared it within two hours. Several were arrested and the encampment on campus was cleared.
• Lingering protesters marched to the City College of New York (CUNY) and clashed with police. NYPD made several arrests and the protest there was ended.
• A group of about 100 pro-Israel counterprotesters arrived on UCLA's campus and clashed with the anti-Israel agitators there. After about three hours without police intervention, Los Angles Mayor Karen Bass ordered LAPD to cooperate with other law enforcement agencies and break up the protest.
• Additional clashes between anti-Israel protesters were seen overnight at the University of Arizona, Tulane University in New Orleans and elsewhere.

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[seer]

Funny, liberals seem to have the most in common with Nazis lately. Rioting, protesting FOR the destruction of Jews and Israel, supporting fascist terrorists like Hamas.

[rogue06]

Krugman was talking about investors who use investments against monetary markets to initiate financial and monetary crises, using the example of Black Wednesday. Krugman was essentially talking about events like the Silicon Valley Bank run. He was not suggesting that Soros or other investors are financing social movements to cause market turmoil, or anything of the sort.

You didn't read the passage before using the quote. I did. And, sure, I'll provide the citation, having done the work, but the point remains that you used a quote-mine without even bothering to check the context precisely because it fit into an antisemitic trope that you find convenient for the moment.

Source: The Accidental Theorist and Other Dispatches from the Dismal Science. Paul Krugman. Penguin Books. 1999

First, some economists have argued for the importance of self-fulfilling currency crises. They imagine a country whose government is prepared to pay the cost of sticking to an exchange rate indefinitely under ordinary circmstances, but which is not willing and/or able to put up with the pain of keeping interest rates high enough to support the currency in the face of speculators guessing that it might be devalued. In that case the fixed rate will survive if investors think it will; but it will also collapse if they think it will.

Second, there is the obvious point that if markets are subject to irrational shifts in opinion, to running with the herd, this applies as much to speculative attacks on fixed exchange rates as to gyrations in the value of flexible exchange rates. One remarkable fact is that there is not a sign in the markets that the great currency crises of the nineties were anticipated—that is, until only a few weeks before Black Wednesday in Britain, or the Mexican crisis of 1994, investors were cheerfully putting their money into pounds or pesos without demanding any exceptional risk premium. (This in spite of the fact that quite a few economists were actually warning in each case that a crisis might be in prospect). Then quite suddenly everyone wanted out. Was this because of some real news—other than the observation that everyone else suddenly wanted out?

Finally, there is the return of the gnomes of Zurich. Finance ministers whose currencies are under attack invariably blame their problems on the nefarious schemes of foreign market manipulators. Economists usually treat such claims with derision—after all, the British politician who coined the phrase was so ignorant that he didn’t even know that the gnomes actually live in Basel. But nobody who has read a business magazine in the last few years can be unaware that these days there really are investors who not only move money in anticipation of a currency crisis, but actually do their best to trigger that crisis for fun and profit. These new actors on the scene do not yet have a standard name; my proposed term is “Soroi.”

There are, of course, two ways to defeat all of these speculative pressures. One is to be basically indifferent to the exchange rate, depriving the Soroi of their “one-way option.” The other is to lock in the exchange rate beyond all question—something best done by simply creating a common currency, leaving nothing to speculate in.

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As to the magazine, I highlighted the areas relevant to my point. The cutoff was unintentional but only shows that the source of that claim was the magazine itself. It remains the case that you grabbed a random source that had the allegations you wanted to see — not because you're a frequent reader or because that source is regularly used and cited in USA markets or even because its allegations are credibly demonstrated. You picked a random magazine to peddle a trope because it made allegations that had already been addressed and refuted in the WaPo article.

-Sam

Krugman was acknowledging that investors trying to intentionally crash currencies in order to profit is not a conspiracy theory regarding "nefarious schemes of foreign market manipulators" but rather that it is a real phenomena that anyone "who has read a business magazine in the last few years can be unaware" of. He then proceeds to christen them "Soroi" after George Soros given how they follow his strategies which "do their best to trigger that crisis for fun and profit."

So where's your supposed quote mine?

[rogue06]

That wasn't brutatlity. The guy decided to lay down on the ground, and the copy simply picked him up and carried him.

"Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!"

[Sparko]

Hey CP, Remember how you said these protests remind you of the "occupy" movement?

Well...

Source: https://www.foxnews.com/us/nypd-release-video-showing-professional-protest-consultant-columbia-university

NYPD release video showing professional 'protest consultant' at Columbia University

Video released by NYPD shows 63-year-old Lisa Fithian, who has a long history of participating in protests like Occupy Wall Street

The New York City Police Department released a video showing a professional "protest consultant" who was seen on other social media videos instructing a mob of anti-Israel agitators as they took over Hamilton Hall at Columbia University overnight Monday.

New York City Mayor Eric Adams spoke about outside agitators during a press conference Tuesday evening.

"What should have been a peaceful protest, it has basically been co-opted by professional outside agitators. We were extremely cautious about releasing our intel information because our goal was to ensure the safety of the students, the faculty, and without destruction to property," Adams said. "We have sounded the alarm several times before about external actors who attempted to hijack this private protest."

"These external actors are obviously not students, and their presence on campus is a violation of Columbia’s clearly stated policy," Adams said. "This group…is an outside agitator with a history of escalating a situation and trying to create chaos. It is our belief they are now actively co-opting what should be a peaceful gathering. This is to serve their own agenda. They are not here to promote peace or unity or allow a peaceful display of one's voice. They are here to create discord and divisiveness."

The mayor urged anyone involved to walk away "now."

During the press conference, police said some of the outside agitators have been known to the NYPD for years, adding that they have seen an escalation in tactics police believe are the result of guidance from outside agitators.

Fithian is a professional "protest consultant" who has been arrested over 80 times, Laura Ingraham of "The Ingraham Angle" said on her show Tuesday night.

Fithian has reportedly participated in protests on climate change, Occupy Wall Street, and now, the Free Palestine movement.

After midnight Tuesday, Fithian was seen on video instructing a mob of anti-Israel agitators as they took over an academic building at Columbia University.

"Some of the people involved are being paid money," Stoll said, explaining he authored an article for The Wall Street Journal recently about how these groups are advertising for fellows to be paid $3,000 to work eight hours a week for three months, on campuses across the U.S. "Some of the people who have been quite prominently in these protests have been paid fellows with hundreds of thousands of dollars from the Soros Open Society Foundation and the Rockefeller Brothers Fund.

"So, there’s big money behind these protests," Stoll added.

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[Cow Poke]

Hey CP, Remember how you said these protests remind you of the "occupy" movement?

Well...

Yes, sir - had all the earmarks of Occupy, including the neatly printed signs and banners. And, as usual, the liberals here bought it hook, line and sinker.

Agreed! And the "student protests" look FAR more like the Occupy protests than they do the Civil Rights March.

[Juvenal]

No more force used than necessary to overcome a refusal to comply.

That wasn't brutatlity. The guy decided to lay down on the ground, and the copy simply picked him up and carried him.

"You're hurting me," is what people say when they're in pain, say from flexicuffs cinched too tight. Restraints don't have to be painful. That's not necessary force. And the cop didn't "simply pick up" the protestor, he suspended the protestor from the flexicuffs that were already causing pain, causing pain of an entirely different magnitude.

Y'all think that's appropriate, and you're wrong about that.

Cinching cuffs too tight is just plain mean, but would probably get a pass in court. Using them to torture someone who is no threat to the officer is police brutality. That video is surefire certain to figure prominently in a successful lawsuit.

Sparko took joy from watching it. Sparko thought that was hilarious. Think about that for a minute.

Considering your evil companions, the generous thing to say is that at least you're not as bad as Sparko.

Flexicuffs are notoriously more painful than standard cuffs.

Precautions
.

If not applied correctly, plastic handcuffs are more uncomfortable than conventional handcuffs for the person being restrained. Also, incorrect application can lead to the swelling or discoloration of the hands of the restrained.^[3] More care and training are required for the person applying them in order to avoid making them too tight. Some models cannot be double-locked, making it possible for the cuffs to be further tightened after initial application, restricting blood flow to the hands and causing injury to the subject.

Cinched tight, they can cause injury. Carrying someone by suspending them from flexicuffs is like suspending a prisoner from the ceiling.

[Juvenal]

Funny, liberals seem to have the most in common with Nazis lately. Rioting, protesting FOR the destruction of Jews and Israel, supporting fascist terrorists like Hamas.

You learned nothing from misreading that sign. Think about this. You got that sign exactly wrong, mistaking Israel for Hamas, and Palestinians in Gaza for Jews in Israel.

What's the chance that you're wrong on this one, too.

[Sparko]

You learned nothing from misreading that sign. Think about this. You got that sign exactly wrong, mistaking Israel for Hamas, and Palestinians in Gaza for Jews in Israel.

What's the chance that you're wrong on this one, too.

zero.

[Cow Poke]

"You're hurting me," is what people say when they're in pain,

It's also what they say when they want to create a scene and snooker people into believing they are being abused.

say from flexicuffs cinched too tight.

You don't know that, and the rest of your post is simply conjecture on your part.

Restraints don't have to be painful. That's not necessary force.

True, and you have no idea how tight the flexicuffs were.

And the cop didn't "simply pick up" the protestor, he suspended the protestor from the flexicuffs that were already causing pain, causing pain of an entirely different magnitude. Y'all think that's appropriate, and you're wrong about that.

The "picking the guy up" was a little over the top.

Cinching cuffs too tight is just plain mean,

Again, you have no way of knowing that. You just assume it because the guy is screaming "you're hurting me", which is not all that uncommon for a protester who is there to make a scene.

[Sparko]

"You're hurting me," is what people say when they're in pain, say from flexicuffs cinched too tight. Restraints don't have to be painful. That's not necessary force. And the cop didn't "simply pick up" the protestor, he suspended the protestor from the flexicuffs that were already causing pain, causing pain of an entirely different magnitude.

Y'all think that's appropriate, and you're wrong about that.

Cinching cuffs too tight is just plain mean, but would probably get a pass in court. Using them to torture someone who is no threat to the officer is police brutality. That video is surefire certain to figure prominently in a successful lawsuit.

Sparko took joy from watching it. Sparko thought that was hilarious. Think about that for a minute.

Considering your evil companions, the generous thing to say is that at least you're not as bad as Sparko.

Flexicuffs are notoriously more painful than standard cuffs.

Precautions
.

If not applied correctly, plastic handcuffs are more uncomfortable than conventional handcuffs for the person being restrained. Also, incorrect application can lead to the swelling or discoloration of the hands of the restrained.^[3] More care and training are required for the person applying them in order to avoid making them too tight. Some models cannot be double-locked, making it possible for the cuffs to be further tightened after initial application, restricting blood flow to the hands and causing injury to the subject.

Cinched tight, they can cause injury. Carrying someone by suspending them from flexicuffs is like suspending a prisoner from the ceiling.

He wasn't wearing the plastic flexcuffs. Looks more like some sort of wide velcro cuff. similar to this:

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[Sam]

Krugman was acknowledging that investors trying to intentionally crash currencies in order to profit is not a conspiracy theory regarding "nefarious schemes of foreign market manipulators" but rather that it is a real phenomena that anyone "who has read a business magazine in the last few years can be unaware" of. He then proceeds to christen them "Soroi" after George Soros given how they follow his strategies which "do their best to trigger that crisis for fun and profit."

So where's your supposed quote mine?

You took a passage about fixed exchange rates and investors shorting foreign currencies and used it to propagate a hoary, antisemitic trope that broad social and political movements are secretly funded and directed by George Soros with the intent of destabilizing governments, you unprincipled J. Quincy Magoo.

-Sam

[Cow Poke]

You learned nothing from misreading that sign. Think about this. You got that sign exactly wrong, mistaking Israel for Hamas, and Palestinians in Gaza for Jews in Israel.

What's the chance that you're wrong on this one, too.

A) I got that sign exactly right, so, using your logic, what are the chances I got this one right, too?
2) After I explained the sign to Sparko, he was quite forthright in admitting he was wrong. Will you do likewise?

I found a better video, and here are some screenshots from it...

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It doesn't look like he is restrained with the same plastic ties the officer has on his back.

And, though the commentator is definitely very biased, the video is much more clear....

The student was yelling "you're hurting me" while they were just walking along - the officer was doing nothing to cause him pain.

[CivilDiscourse]

I have to laugh at this one:

Source: https://www.foxnews.com/media/columbia-student-mocked-viral-video-telling-reporters-occupiers-might-die-without-food-delivery

A Columbia University graduate student went viral online after telling members of the media that protesters were at risk of dying or becoming severely ill if authorities did not deliver food and water to them.

"First of all, we're saying that they're obligated to provide food to students who pay for a meal plan here," the student told reporters when asked about Columbia's role providing food access for students occupying the campus building Hamilton Hall.

The student is reported to be Johannah King-Slutzky, an instructor and Ph.D. candidate at Columbia, according to National Review.

"I guess it's ultimately a question of what kind of community and obligation Columbia feels it has to its students," King-Slutzky said. "Do you want students to die of dehydration and starvation or get severely ill, even if they disagree with you?"

She continued: "If the answer is no then you should allow basic — I mean, it's crazy to say since we're on an Ivy League campus — but this is like, basic humanitarian aid we're asking for, like could people please have a glass of water?"

"Columbia students who took over a campus building are demanding food and water as part of their basic human rights," Outkick founder Clay Travis wrote. "Really."

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