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  • The Trump Juggernaut...

    The Harvard Harris poll is not right wing, in the least, so this surprised even me. So if Trump gets convicted his numbers rise?


    Trump holds 6-point lead over Biden despite legal woes: Poll

    Former President Trump holds a 6-point lead over President Biden in a hypothetical 2024 match-up, new polling shows, even as the Republican frontrunner faces mounting legal woes.

    A Harvard CAPS-Harris poll found Trump with 48 percent to Biden’s 42 percent in a head-to-head race, with another 9 percent of registered voters unsure who they would back between the two.

    Even if Trump is indicted in one of his legal battles, the polling suggests he could still defeat Biden.

    If Trump is convicted of trying to influence the 2020 election results in Georgia, he’s still the favorite to win, with 52 percent to Biden’s 48 percent.

    If he’s convicted for inciting the riots at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, his lead extends to 8 points, with 54 percent to Biden’s 46 percent.

    And if he’s convicted of crimes related to his handling of classified presidential documents, voters are split 50-50 on who to vote for.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...gal-woes-poll/
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

  • #2
    There were some black Trump supporters that argued that they relate to his unjustifiable court cases, though I heard that from maybe just a couple of back supporters so I don't know how widespread that is, but if that's the general sentiment of the growing black support he's getting, maybe that's a factor.

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    • #3
      The polls make sense to me -- esp. the split between J6 and docs.

      In the former case, there was no "insurrection," and it's dubious that he "incited" anything criminal or violent.

      In the latter case, it's clear he was reckless, high-handed, and deceptive. He did no real harm, but it's still hard to sympathize with him.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
        The polls make sense to me -- esp. the split between J6 and docs.

        In the former case, there was no "insurrection," and it's dubious that he "incited" anything criminal or violent.
        True. There was a disregard for the effects of his claims though.

        In the latter case, it's clear he was reckless, high-handed, and deceptive. He did no real harm, but it's still hard to sympathize with him.
        The voters are given the choice between two people who recklessly handled classified documents. When it comes to the crunch, I think Trump would have a slight edge.
        1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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        but that won't prevent others from
        taking it upon themselves to deprive you
        of the right to call yourself Christian.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by seanD View Post
          There were some black Trump supporters that argued that they relate to his unjustifiable court cases, though I heard that from maybe just a couple of back supporters so I don't know how widespread that is, but if that's the general sentiment of the growing black support he's getting, maybe that's a factor.
          I had read that somewhere as well, that many blacks are now identifying with Trump because of how unfairly he is being treated. If that translates into votes then it doesn't bode well for Democrats. All it really takes is a reason for party loyalists to take a step back and view their party with some objectivity - to see the forest for the trees. Democrats are not the friends of blacks or most minorities.

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          • #6
            Trump is on track to sweep all 50 states in the primary. Nikki Haley, meanwhile, refuses to drop out despite suffering one humiliating defeat after another.
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
              The polls make sense to me -- esp. the split between J6 and docs.

              In the former case, there was no "insurrection," and it's dubious that he "incited" anything criminal or violent.

              In the latter case, it's clear he was reckless, high-handed, and deceptive. He did no real harm, but it's still hard to sympathize with him.
              Of course it being determined that old Joe also took, as well as "willfully retained and disclosed" classified information might tend to dull the effect of what OMB did.

              I'm always still in trouble again

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                Trump is on track to sweep all 50 states in the primary. Nikki Haley, meanwhile, refuses to drop out despite suffering one humiliating defeat after another.
                At some point one has to wonder about her motivation. Personal?

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  At some point one has to wonder about her motivation. Personal?
                  I think she's hanging in there hoping for a miracle. That either Trump is jailed or has a stroke or something, then she will be the only candidate left who didn't drop out.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                    I think she's hanging in there hoping for a miracle. That either Trump is jailed or has a stroke or something, then she will be the only candidate left who didn't drop out.
                    There is no way she could win a brokered convention, too many diehard Trump supporters - at that point it would probably be DeSantis.
                    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                      I think she's hanging in there hoping for a miracle. That either Trump is jailed or has a stroke or something, then she will be the only candidate left who didn't drop out.
                      But she is alienating the very people who'd make the decision of who to replace him with. At this point, Chris Christie probably has a better shot.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #12
                        With the orange hair...

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                        Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

                        Beige Federalist.

                        Nationalist Christian.

                        "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                        Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

                        Proud member of the this space left blank community.

                        Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

                        Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

                        Justice for Matthew Perna!

                        Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          At some point one has to wonder about her motivation. Personal?
                          If Trump loses in 2024, Hayley will be in a position to say both "I told you so" and "I ran the best campaign of any non-Trump candidate". If Trump loses the election and is subsequently convicted, imprisoned, and otherwise disgraced, Hayley will be in a strong position to unite the Never-Trumpers and the people who suddenly want to bury their past support and associations, Dennis Hassert-style.

                          Her motivation, in short, is 2028.

                          -Sam
                          "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sam View Post

                            If Trump loses in 2024, Hayley will be in a position to say both "I told you so" and "I ran the best campaign of any non-Trump candidate". If Trump loses the election and is subsequently convicted, imprisoned, and otherwise disgraced, Hayley will be in a strong position to unite the Never-Trumpers and the people who suddenly want to bury their past support and associations, Dennis Hassert-style.

                            Her motivation, in short, is 2028.
                            That makes sense. Her chances in 2024 are nearly nil, but she will have a lot of name recognition going into 2028. And low-information voters love name recognition.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                              And low-information voters love name recognition.
                              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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