Originally posted by Meh Gerbil
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So the poor people for whom you aren't buying Volvos, are their lives just not worth it?
And this isn't a matter of poor people's lives being less valuable, rather, it is about using the poor (not actually caring for them) to justify ridiculous government programs that do more for the oligarchs than they do for the poor. No one here wants poor people to go without healthcare, what we don't want to do is pay $100.00 more in taxes so that $2.00 of it can go to help the poor (stuffing them in sub par VA hospitals and letting them die anyways) while $98.00 goes to line a politicians pocket.
Real Life Example:
I knew a lady in real life who applied for Social Security. She wasn't a fraud, she had all the requisite doctor's paperwork and so forth. It took her three years to get onto Social Security - the poor gal had to beg, borrow, and quite nearly steal to live that long without a job. When she finally got the green light a large portion of her benefits (back pay) went to cover lawyer fees (oh look, there are the rich getting richer) and then the IRS swooped down and took another huge chunk because they'd decided taxes filed 6 years earlier by her deadbeat husband (in jail for molesting children) where bad (1). In short, she died having never received even the tiniest portion due her. That there is a corrupt, vile, evil system enriching the rich all the while piggy backing on the desperately poor.
If you wonder why I don't want my health care turned over to the government look at my friend Holly.
I don't want to spend thousands on lawyers, fighting with faceless bureaucrats for YEARS to get what was promised.
I've seen first hand how the government treats the poor - it is criminal.
And this isn't a matter of poor people's lives being less valuable, rather, it is about using the poor (not actually caring for them) to justify ridiculous government programs that do more for the oligarchs than they do for the poor. No one here wants poor people to go without healthcare, what we don't want to do is pay $100.00 more in taxes so that $2.00 of it can go to help the poor (stuffing them in sub par VA hospitals and letting them die anyways) while $98.00 goes to line a politicians pocket.
Real Life Example:
I knew a lady in real life who applied for Social Security. She wasn't a fraud, she had all the requisite doctor's paperwork and so forth. It took her three years to get onto Social Security - the poor gal had to beg, borrow, and quite nearly steal to live that long without a job. When she finally got the green light a large portion of her benefits (back pay) went to cover lawyer fees (oh look, there are the rich getting richer) and then the IRS swooped down and took another huge chunk because they'd decided taxes filed 6 years earlier by her deadbeat husband (in jail for molesting children) where bad (1). In short, she died having never received even the tiniest portion due her. That there is a corrupt, vile, evil system enriching the rich all the while piggy backing on the desperately poor.
If you wonder why I don't want my health care turned over to the government look at my friend Holly.
I don't want to spend thousands on lawyers, fighting with faceless bureaucrats for YEARS to get what was promised.
I've seen first hand how the government treats the poor - it is criminal.
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