Abortion is immoral but a baby can suffocate minutes after birth

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

The point being that this young woman has been persuaded [or coerced by playing on her emotions] to have the fruit of her womb butchered, possibly against her better judgment.

There are no pro-choice organisations that actively campaign [often by harassment] to persuade women to have abortions.

[Diogenes]

There are no pro-choice organisations that actively campaign [often by harassment] to persuade women to have abortions.

There are some who want abortions in tv shows because it's "a serious act of love", want to "male abortion great again", and to "shout your abortion". Some even get abortion cakes.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Go argue with THEM, ditz.

our clinics provide all that information to our clients.

As I understand it the USA is not noted for being one of the most developed western nations when it comes to many aspects of welfare and social issues.

Which leaves the simple fact that once the child is born, apart from very commendable help with clothing, formula, and all the various requisites for a baby or young child, the mother is very much on her own. And that comes back to the comments of Sister Joan Chittister that

birdbrained idiotic ignorant

Benedictine nun that I quoted.

[Diogenes]

Go argue with THEM, ditz.

One has to be amused by the "if you don't plan to support the child for it's entire life, it's better of dead" mentality.

[Cow Poke]

One has to be amused by the "if you don't plan to support the child for it's entire life, it's better of dead" mentality.

It is some of the dumbest "logic" I've ever encountered.

[Cow Poke]

I asked you some questions.

Based on a really stupid false premise, so I opted to ignore them.

[Cow Poke]

There are no pro-choice organisations that actively campaign [often by harassment] to persuade women to have abortions.

It is the very reason for the existence of "Planned Parenthood".

From that extreme right wing propaganda Huffington Post...

Margaret Sanger was a walking contradiction.

The founder of the birth control movement spent her life arguing that women’s liberation was predicated on their ability to control their own reproduction. “No woman can call herself free until she can choose consciously whether she will or will not be a mother,” she wrote in 1919. At the same time, she bought into the ideology of eugenics — the belief that genetics could improve through selective breeding — and supported sterilization of those who were deemed unfit to reproduce. In other words, she believed the choice to be a mother was reserved only for those who were deemed worthy by society, a judgment inherently shaped by her contemporaries’ racism and prejudices against people with disabilities.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Based on a really stupid false premise, so I opted to ignore them.

What is "stupid" about those questions I have put to you?

That you choose to ignore them is another matter.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

It is the very reason for the existence of "Planned Parenthood".

From that extreme right wing propaganda Huffington Post...

Margaret Sanger was a walking contradiction.

The founder of the birth control movement spent her life arguing that women’s liberation was predicated on their ability to control their own reproduction. “No woman can call herself free until she can choose consciously whether she will or will not be a mother,” she wrote in 1919. At the same time, she bought into the ideology of eugenics — the belief that genetics could improve through selective breeding — and supported sterilization of those who were deemed unfit to reproduce. In other words, she believed the choice to be a mother was reserved only for those who were deemed worthy by society, a judgment inherently shaped by her contemporaries’ racism and prejudices against people with disabilities.

Planned Parenthood is harassing women. Like your pregnancy centres [as you allege] it offers a service to those who seek it out.

[Cow Poke]

Planned Parenthood is harassing women.

SHAME on them!

Like your pregnancy centres [as you allege] it offers a service to those who seek it out.

Planned Parenthood’s Annual Report Proves It’s an Abortion Group

And I don't "allege" it, you ninny - it's FACT.

[Cow Poke]

What is "stupid" about those questions I have put to you?

And, here, you expose your stupidity. I didn't call the questions "stupid", I called your stupid false premise "stupid".

That you choose to ignore them is another matter.

You're a . I'm not obligated to answer questions based on a really stupid false premise.

[rogue06]

"If the child can't suck the govt's teat, are you really pro-life?"


Maybe it's not like people actually celebrate abortions, oh wait, they do.

That is just sick.

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And not exactly new

Celebrating abortions:

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Among certain elements it is virtually becoming a sacrament.

Earlier this year Planned Parenthood was able to gather 20 religious leaders to bless their newest center in Washington D.C. built next to an Elementary school. The president and CEO of Planned Parenthood of Metropolitan Washington gushed, "In almost every message to our staff, I talk about our doing sacred work. This confirms the sacredness of the work we do." Providing abortions (and let's not kid ourselves, in spite of their protests to the contrary, that is pretty much PP's primary activity) is "sacred work" for these people.

And about the same time the TV show Degrassi: Next Class in an episode called "#IRegretNothing" has a 16 year old going to an abortion clinic where one of her friends says "Making that difficult choice and standing up for it? You're courageous! We should go out and celebrate!" And they all go out to celebrate by having ice cream. They call it celebrating a second time when one proclaims that they're going "To celebrate Lola's bravery!" Yeah real brave, killing a defenseless unborn baby. Maybe she should get a medal.

As an aside, the girl who had the abortion remarks that she doesn't feel sad about aborting her baby to which one of her classmates adds "A lot of women have abortions and feel no shame," and goes on to cite rapper Nicki Minaj as one celebrity who had an abortion while still in High School. What is left out is that in 2014 Minaj told Rolling Stone magazine that this decision has "haunted me all my life." Darn those pesky details.

Two years ago there was a piece in the Huffington Post urging women to celebrate Mother's Day with abortion. Talk about the world turned upside down. Since then others have celebrated Valentine's Day with abortion such as TeenVogue.com which posted a "What to Get a Friend Post-Abortion" guide including this (crass and crude warning to those who click on it). And the Vegan website VegWeb.com was promoting a "Valentines Day Sale" for abortion pills.

And the entire #ShoutYourAbortion movement is little more than an effort to celebrate abortions

Happy about increased abortions:

Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains, located in Las Vegas, Nevada (Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's turf) gave its Aurua, Colorado abortion clinic an award for increasing the number of babies killed in abortions.

Source: Planned Parenthood Gives Clinic Award for 'Exceeding Abortion Visits' of Previous Year

Proving once and for all that Planned Parenthood's business is abortion, Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains gave its Aurora abortion clinic an award certificate for "exceeding abortion visits [in the] first half of FY12 compared to the first half of FY13."

Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains is the 2nd largest Planned Parenthood facility in the U.S.

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Source: Planned Parenthood Gives Clinic Award for 'Exceeding Abortion Visits' of Previous Year

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The picture of the award was snapped by a former worker who saw it posted on a bulletin board in Denver. The board displays awards satellite clinics have earned.

The award challenged the Planned Parenthood worker's thinking, since it showed that clinics were given abortion "quotas" to meet, and that this particular clinic had "exceeded" expectations and received an award for doing so.

From a blog post by Abby Johnson, former Planned Parenthood director turned pro-life advocate:

Ever since I left Planned Parenthood, I have been talking about the abortion quotas that are established inside abortion facilities. Many abortion supporters refused to believe it, citing that surely Planned Parenthood wants abortion to be safe, legal and RARE. If they want something to be RARE, they certainly wouldn't have quotas, right?

Planned Parenthood had a net revenue of $1.21 billion last year, and received $540.6 million in U.S. taxpayer funding.


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So much for wanting to make abortions rare but safe and legal when you award clinics for increasing the number of abortions

Unhappy when abortion rates drop:

For years the pro-abortion crowd has told everyone that they want to make abortion "safe, legal and rare." For instance back in 2008 Hillary Clinton proclaimed at a campaign event that she thought abortion should be "safe, legal and rare, and by rare I mean rare." But the reality of the situation is that some really are not interested in the rare part and see a decrease in abortions as being a bad thing.

Case in point, in a tweet earlier this week Cosmopolitan magazine, a long time major advocate for abortions, lamented an increase of babies born in Texas after that state defunded organizations, such as Planned Parenthood, that provide abortions.

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The link in the tweet goes to a Cosmo story about a study conducted by the Texas Policy Evaluation Project at University of Texas Austin which found a 1.9% "increase in the birthing rate in counties that once had state-funded Planned Parenthood clinics." And as can be seen by the accompanying sad-face emoji in the tweet Cosmo thinks that people having more babies and less abortions is a negative result.

So much for "safe, legal and rare" -- or at least for the last part. But then what can you expect from a magazine that last year started a campaign trying to get women to say how great abortions are (#ShoutYourAbortion). After all, why would you want to make something that is so positive a rare thing?

And then there was the jubilant celebration in New York when they made it legal to abort babies for any reason right up to the moment of birth.

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And then Gov. Cuomo even ordered bridges and government buildings be decorated with pink lights to celebrate allowing unborn babies to be killed for any reason whatsoever right up to the moment of birth.

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Please note how Cuomo himself characterizes it

Once again the left puts the lie to their claim that they don't like abortion and that they want to make it as rare as possible. They rejoice in their iniquity.


ETA: Another one to add to the mix.

Michelle Wolf, the host of Netflix's "The Break with Michelle Wolf" (where she recently asked her audience the question "Are You Sort Of Hoping We Don't Get Peace With North Korea So You Wouldn't Have To Give Trump Credit?" and 71% said "yes") devoted a portion of her 4th of July episode celebrating abortions (calling it a "Salute to Abortion") shouting "God bless abortions and God bless America." She talked at length about how women have the unique ability to create life and then cheered on the idea that they should terminate those lives.

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When I brought some of this up before Adrift noted "Lena Dunham's podcast last year [2016] when she claimed that she wished she could have an abortion as a stand of solidarity for women's rights."

[rogue06]

It is the very reason for the existence of "Planned Parenthood".

From that extreme right wing propaganda Huffington Post...

Margaret Sanger was a walking contradiction.

The founder of the birth control movement spent her life arguing that women’s liberation was predicated on their ability to control their own reproduction. “No woman can call herself free until she can choose consciously whether she will or will not be a mother,” she wrote in 1919. At the same time, she bought into the ideology of eugenics — the belief that genetics could improve through selective breeding — and supported sterilization of those who were deemed unfit to reproduce. In other words, she believed the choice to be a mother was reserved only for those who were deemed worthy by society, a judgment inherently shaped by her contemporaries’ racism and prejudices against people with disabilities.

Sanger was vehemently opposed to abortion which makes what her organization, Planned Parenthood, turned into bitterly ironic. She wanted unrestricted access to birth control so as to avoid abortions.

But on the flip side, she was also a champion of eugenics.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Planned Parenthood is not harassing women. Like your pregnancy centres [as you allege] it offers a service to those who seek it out.

Fixed.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

SHAME on them!

I have corrected my post

And I don't "allege" it, you ninny - it's FACT.

All I can ascertain from you is the information that your pregnancy centres offer assistance to pregnant women who come to them. Precisely as does PP.