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Originally posted by Sparko View PostJust because Cheney, a republican believes the Russian angle doesn't mean it is real or that the democrats are not using it to create a false controversy by claiming Trump was involved in a desperate grab to retain relevance and power.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostI am not trying to counter that the Democrats will play politics with this. And I have no idea if the White House might be trying to hide something here or what that might be, but they are not very good at this, are they?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostAt this point the whole thing sounds like a soap opera. We can't trust the media to tell us what is going on and nobody trusts the politicians to tell the truth.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostThe entire media is not lying and some politicians tell some truth, some more than others. Republicans should not completely ignore it when other Republicans like John McCain or Lindsay Graham, for example, express genuine concern about the way some of their own political allies are acting. Surely, you can see why Devin Nunes is not handling his committee's investigation well, right?
Sorting through the lies and the truth is getting pretty difficult these days. Everyone wants to spin things their way. I do think the democrats just need to back off and let Trump run the country without interference at every turn. He won. Deal with it.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI haven't been following what Nunes has been doing. But as far as McCain goes, his animosity with Trump (it goes both ways) is enough for me to take what he says with a grain of salt. He has always been a very "left" sided republican. I don't know much about Graham.
Sorting through the lies and the truth is getting pretty difficult these days. Everyone wants to spin things their way. I do think the democrats just need to back off and let Trump run the country without interference at every turn. He won. Deal with it.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostThat's not the way our system of government works. Trump has to deal with Congress (which still has some Democrats in it) and the courts. The president doesn't just run the country without judicial review or congressional oversight. Nunes is making Trump look worse than McCain ever could, and Nunes was part of the transition. As a Democrat, I could be very honest about the weaknesses of Obama or Clinton (both of them), there's no reason why Republicans cannot also do so about Trump, Pence, Nunes, Spicer, etc.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI am not talking about the regular running of the government. I am talking about the fake scandals, trying to keep Trump for even getting his cabinet in place, blocking his executive orders with nonsense ruling by judges that have no say in the matter whatsoever, and all of the games going on.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostCheney is wrong. Our voting process consists of individual citizens going to their designated polling location and casting a ballot for their electoral college representative to vote for President. There is no evidence that a single ballot was changed by Russians. Therefore, the propaganda campaign that supposedly originated from Russia didn't "interfere" with anything.I'm not here anymore.
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostNunes is making Trump look worse than McCain ever could, and Nunes was part of the transition."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostSpicer clarified that the White House did not respond to Yates' lawyer's letter and therefore had no objection to her testifying. Still wondering why Nunes seems to have suspended the committee's investigation."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThe sheer incompetence of Nunes' attempts at cover-up are hilarious. He's managed to make himself the center of attention by publicly sabotaging the investigation he's supposedly leading.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by robrecht View Postethics are not a strong point of American politicians."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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