Gen. Flynn lied concerning his pre-innauguration communications with Russia.

[Terraceth]

right. Same with something like pedophilia. They want special "rights" and they think they and their love will never be able to get married or whatever, so should be legalize pedophilia to give them "equal right" because of their "suffering?"

I do not see the comparison. First, this was the issue of marriage, not the legalization of the act itself; homosexual sex was already legalized quite a while ago, and as far as I was aware, whether it should stay legalized or not was not in dispute in this topic, which was concerned solely with the question of marriage, a different issue. You can certainly argue about that if you wish, but you're still comparing two rather different topics.

Second, your claim of "they and their love will never be able to get married" is false. Simply waiting for the younger party to achieve the age requirement for entering a marriage makes it legal, so there is no "never" involved.

I criticized Starlight's analogy for not working, and I stand by that, but I do not see your analogy as an improvement.

[One Bad Pig]

Um, wow. I can't believe you wrote that without realizing it showed the need to rethink your entire life and values. I guess you're just a horrible horrible person who doesn't care about others.

I care more about the eternal well-being of others than their abnormal desires. There are more important things in life than sexual gratification.

[One Bad Pig]

I do not see the comparison. First, this was the issue of marriage, not the legalization of the act itself; homosexual sex was already legalized quite a while ago, and as far as I was aware, whether it should stay legalized or not was not in dispute in this topic, which was concerned solely with the question of marriage, a different issue. You can certainly argue about that if you wish, but you're still comparing two rather different topics.

Second, your claim of "they and their love will never be able to get married" is false. Simply waiting for the younger party to achieve the age requirement for entering a marriage makes it legal, so there is no "never" involved.

I criticized Starlight's analogy for not working, and I stand by that, but I do not see your analogy as an improvement.

Your hypothetical solution fails. Pedophiles do not fall in lust with particular individuals who happen to be children. They lust after children. Once the child has become an adult, the attraction is no longer there.

[Mountain Man]

I care more about the eternal well-being of others than their abnormal desires. There are more important things in life than sexual gratification.

Besides, from a purely biological perspective (which is the only perspective available to atheists), homosexuals are abnormal. It's a scientific fact that males and females are physically compatible in a way that two males and two females are not. You might even say that homosexuality violates natural morality.

[Adrift]

Besides, from a purely biological perspective (which is the only perspective available to atheists), homosexuals are abnormal. It's a scientific fact that males and females are physically compatible in a way that two males and two females are not. You might even say that homosexuality violates natural morality.

Eh, the "gay uncle hypothesis" was invented to get around that issue. It suggests that maybe the reason some men are gay is so that they might spend more time providing resources for their nieces and nephews, and so their kin can produce more offspring rather than chasing down provisions on their own. The theory has a number of holes, including the fact that it doesn't really account for lesbians, but yeah...

[Terraceth]

Your hypothetical solution fails. Pedophiles do not fall in lust with particular individuals who happen to be children. They lust after children. Once the child has become an adult, the attraction is no longer there.

The fact still remains that the claim they would "never" be able to marry their love is not true because they do have that ability. The attraction may have ended at that point, but they still get that right eventually. There is no "never."

At any rate, the comparison still wasn't a good one for other reasons.

[Sparko]

The fact still remains that the claim they would "never" be able to marry their love is not true because they do have that ability. The attraction may have ended at that point, but they still get that right eventually. There is no "never."

At any rate, the comparison still wasn't a good one for other reasons.

Well then the solution to gay marriage is to make one of them have a sex change operation. Derp. Aging out is not a solution to their abnormal desire for children. Just like a sex change is not the solution to homosexual relationships.

[JimL]

Well then the solution to gay marriage is to make one of them have a sex change operation. Derp. Aging out is not a solution to their abnormal desire for children. Just like a sex change is not the solution to homosexual relationships.

No actually the solution would be for you and your ilk to try and live your own lives and to stop busying yourself with trying to force others to live according to your values based on your beliefs. That would serve both sides well.

[Sparko]

No actually the solution would be for you and your ilk to try and live your own lives and to stop busying yourself with trying to force others to live according to your values based on your beliefs. That would serve both sides well.

So you support just leaving pedophiles to just live their lives according to their own values and beliefs then?

[JimL]

So you support just leaving pedophiles to just live their lives according to their own values and beliefs then?

Pedophilia is the non-consenting abuse of underaged children and is against the law for that reason. Don't know why that has to be explained to you people over and over again. We are speaking of the relationships between consenting adults.

[Sparko]

Pedophilia is the non-consenting abuse of underaged children and is against the law for that reason. Don't know why that has to be explained to you people over and over again. We are speaking of the relationships between consenting adults.

so what? Why don't "you and your ilk to try and live your own lives and to stop busying yourself with trying to force others to live according to your values based on your beliefs?"

[The Thinker]

What a classy guy you are, Thinker...

Compared to the juvenile usuals on this site, I am pretty classy.

[Bill the Cat]

Compared to the juvenile usuals on this site, I am pretty classy.

How do you stand your own awesomeness?

[The Thinker]

How do you stand your own awesomeness?

By thanking the lord every day.

[Bill the Cat]

By thanking the lord every day.

If I were HALF as awesome as you, I'd move to a small island nation and demand worship from the locals.