Vivisection All Liberals

[Meh Gerbil]

Actually whether most here believe in a literal Bible interpretation is not the real issue. Though many if not most here do believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible in one form or another. The issue is better described below.

This is either terribly naive or most likely dishonest in the extreme. Of course not all conservatives nor Christians are Biblical literalists, but history, statistics and polls tell a different story. The history of Christianity going back to the Church Fathers is primarily based on a literal understanding of the Bible. In recent history of the United States the majority of the Christians believe in a literal Bible in one form or another from YEC to OEC beliefs. The present government reflects this where Pence and at least four of the cabinet appointees believe in a literal Bible interpretation.

The conservative party and movements like the Tea Party is by far dominated by evangelical white Christians to point of 95%+.

Also, your view does not reflect what you wrote above.

Shunya,
I want you to understand the reason why you're going onto my ignore list.
You're going onto my ignore list because you don't tell the truth about anything.
At almost any point your assertions can be tested against real world data they are found to be flat out wrong.
You write what you hope is true, but it has no basis in reality - you spew bias and hate divorced from reality.

Here is the actual make up of the Tea Party:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tea-part...-they-believe/

Also, the Tea Party has a tendency to be better educated than the average American:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us...poll.html?_r=0

Your completely fabricated 95% white evangelical Christian claims fails on all three counts.
It isn't correct, not even on a single point.

Many other atheists here will say silly things but it is either presented as their opinion or they back it up.
Your posts are just ridiculous flights of fancy with no connection to the world as it exists.

-Meh Gerbil

[shunyadragon]

What on earth are you talking about? You are still spouting opinion, where are you getting those numbers?

Many sources that have been covered her on many threads.

Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tea-party-supporters-who-they-are-and-what-they-believe/

CBS News and the New York Times surveyed 1,580 adults, including 881 self-identified Tea Party supporters, to get a snapshot of the Tea Party movement. There is a lot of information to unpack; let's begin with the demographics.

Eighteen percent of Americans identify as Tea Party supporters. The vast majority of them -- 89 percent -- are white. Just one percent is black.

They tend to skew older: Three in four are 45 years old or older, including 29 percent who are 65 plus. They are also more likely to be men (59 percent) than women (41 percent).

More than one in three (36 percent) hails from the South, far more than any other region. Twenty-five percent come from the West, 22 percent from the Midwest, and 18 percent from the northeast.

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The racial and religious make up of the Republican Party is similar.

More to follow.

[Darth Executor]

Shunya,
I want you to understand the reason why you're going onto my ignore list.
You're going onto my ignore list because you don't tell the truth about anything.
At almost any point your assertions can be tested against real world data they are found to be flat out wrong.
You write what you hope is true, but it has no basis in reality - you spew bias and hate divorced from reality.

Here is the actual make up of the Tea Party:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tea-part...-they-believe/

Also, the Tea Party has a tendency to be better educated than the average American:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us...poll.html?_r=0

Your completely fabricated 95% white evangelical Christian claims fails on all three counts.
It isn't correct, not even on a single point.

Many other atheists here will say silly things but it is either presented as their opinion or they back it up.
Your posts are just ridiculous flights of fancy with no connection to the world as it exists.

-Meh Gerbil

I'm not sure Shuny has the cognitive awareness necessary to actually lie. He has what I call a "binary brain" where all analog data is converted to 1s and 0s so on any given issue he can only have a stereotypical partisan stance (1) or his brain ignores it altogether (0). This is very common among progressives and atheists on the lower end of the IQ scale who think they're smart and waste time on message boards like these thinking they'll be apex predators rather than the rabbits everyone else feasts on.

[Meh Gerbil]

I'm not sure Shuny has the cognitive awareness necessary to actually lie. He has what I call a "binary brain" where all analog data is converted to 1s and 0s so on any given issue he can only have a stereotypical partisan stance (1) or his brain ignores it altogether (0). This is very common among progressives and atheists on the lower end of the IQ scale who think they're smart and waste time on message boards like these thinking they'll be apex predators rather than the rabbits everyone else feasts on.

At least the other atheists will offer what is obviously an opinion.
I can deal with that.

What I cannot stand is someone who lauds the importance of science, condemning myself and many others for being anti-science, while simultaneously ignoring it entirely.
At least Tassman, Starlight, and FirstFloor are self-aware.
It is just too idiotic.

[RumTumTugger]

Laugh all you want starlight but unfortunetley for you meh gerbil is correct it was those that took a conservative veiw of bible study that were against slavery it was those you who and those christian churches take a more liberal view of the bible that were for slavery. go ot the 1:00 mark for how the anti slavery christian read the bible as opposed to those who were for it. That is is you are not afraid to hear an uncomfortable truth about your false narrative.

[Meh Gerbil]

Laugh all you want starlight but unfortunetley for you meh gerbil is correct it was those that took a conservative veiw of bible study that were against slavery it was those you who and those christian churches take a more liberal view of the bible that were for slavery. go ot the 1:00 mark for how the anti slavery christian read the bible as opposed to those who were for it. That is is you are not afraid to hear an uncomfortable truth about your false narrative.

I think what is disturbing about this is that you're discussing historical fact.
Even if Starlight admitted that conservative Christianity was largely responsible it doesn't mean they're not off the rails today.

I can admit that I enjoy an atheist speaker, that good points were made, and do all that without embracing atheism.
Everything is so all or nothing these days.

[shunyadragon]

Shunya,
I want you to understand the reason why you're going onto my ignore list.
You're going onto my ignore list because you don't tell the truth about anything.
At almost any point your assertions can be tested against real world data they are found to be flat out wrong.
You write what you hope is true, but it has no basis in reality - you spew bias and hate divorced from reality.

Here is the actual make up of the Tea Party:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tea-part...-they-believe/

Also, the Tea Party has a tendency to be better educated than the average American:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us...poll.html?_r=0

Your completely fabricated 95% white evangelical Christian claims fails on all three counts.
It isn't correct, not even on a single point.

Many other atheists here will say silly things but it is either presented as their opinion or they back it up.
Your posts are just ridiculous flights of fancy with no connection to the world as it exists.

-Meh Gerbil

The sources you cite confirm my original statements, including Hispanics and others, the Tea party is only 1% black, do the math. Similar figures are true for the Republican party. Actually both are at least 89% European White. Yes. I it was my error that I was including Hispanics with 'white,' but that does not change much.

[Starlight]

Laugh all you want starlight but unfortunetley for you meh gerbil is correct it was those that took a conservative veiw of bible study that were against slavery it was those you who and those christian churches take a more liberal view of the bible that were for slavery.

It's this sort of willful ignorance among conservatives that brings me comfort that in a hundred years time conservatives will be defending gay rights with the claim that they were the original defenders of it. Once the liberals successfully change the culture and maintain that change for a generation, the conservatives of the next generation grow up with the new culture and do their best to 'conserve' that culture and see it as their conservative duty to do so.

[Mountain Man]

Laugh all you want starlight but unfortunetley for you meh gerbil is correct it was those that took a conservative veiw of bible study that were against slavery it was those you who and those christian churches take a more liberal view of the bible that were for slavery. go ot the 1:00 mark for how the anti slavery christian read the bible as opposed to those who were for it. That is is you are not afraid to hear an uncomfortable truth about your false narrative.

It's easy to justify chattel slavery and many other moral evils when you can define someone's rights away by simply denying their basic humanity. If Dimbulb lived in 1800s America, he would have been a passionate defender of slavery using the exact same arguments he uses to defend abortion today.

[Darth Executor]

It's this sort of willful ignorance among conservatives that brings me comfort that in a hundred years time conservatives will be defending gay rights with the claim that they were the original defenders of it. Once the liberals successfully change the culture and maintain that change for a generation, the conservatives of the next generation grow up with the new culture and do their best to 'conserve' that culture and see it as their conservative duty to do so.

Chattel slavery was itself a liberal innovation in the first place, picked up by multiculturalists from Arabs and largely practiced by people who were comfortable living among blacks, so even if liberals could be credited with its dissolution, I'm not sure why you think it makes you look good given that you are the reason it existed in the first place.

[Darth Executor]

It's this sort of willful ignorance among conservatives that brings me comfort that in a hundred years time conservatives will be defending gay rights with the claim that they were the original defenders of it. Once the liberals successfully change the culture and maintain that change for a generation, the conservatives of the next generation grow up with the new culture and do their best to 'conserve' that culture and see it as their conservative duty to do so.

In a hundred years you will be remembered with hatred and disgust, like Hitler. There certainly won't be any gay rights to defend given that homosexuality will likely either be cured by then (if you manage not to destroy civilization) or returned to its low status (if you do manage to destroy civilization).

[JimL]

In a hundred years you will be remembered with hatred and disgust, like Hitler.

In your case Darth, I don't think we will have to wait a hundred years.

There certainly won't be any gay rights to defend given that homosexuality will likely either be cured by then (if you manage not to destroy civilization) or returned to its low status (if you do manage to destroy civilization).

Right, there won't be any need for specifically gay rights, the bigots and haters will hopefully have gone extinct by then.

[Darth Executor]

In your case Darth, I don't think we will have to wait a hundred years.

By the time I am done I hope you remember me with such horror that Hitler will become a historical footnote.

Right, there won't be any need for specifically gay rights, the bigots and haters will hopefully have gone extinct by then.

Bigots and haters breed like rabbits, unlike gays and liberals (but I repeat myself).

[Starlight]

Bigots and haters breed like rabbits

And are being liberalized en masse about 10 times as fast as they are breeding. You don't seem to understand the basic concept that ideology is not genetic and that that the spread of liberal ideas is much faster than the conservatives can breed.

When all the factors are combined together (even after the excessive breeding etc), liberalism tends to increase in the total population at approximately 1 percentage point per year across a huge range of issues. Here are a couple:

[Darth Executor]

And are being liberalized en masse about 10 times as fast as they are breeding. You don't seem to understand the basic concept that ideology is not genetic and that that the spread of liberal ideas is much faster than the conservatives can breed.

You don't seem to understand that political incliations are in fact genetic and more importantly, liberals will kill off the infested hosts and those who resist tend to be fanatical and ultraconservative (IE: Muslims). eventually liberals will run out of suitable hosts and be slaughtered by the innoculated barbarians. even if there wasn't any genetic component to ideology liberalism will wipe itself out. This isn't debatable or something you can do about it without abandoning liberalism. It's a mathematical reality that your days are numbered. There's a reason why liberals need foreign reinforcements, and the nonwhites they try to use as biological weapons don't seem to have much interest in liberal tenets except insofar as it benefits them. Even if you converted the entire planet (good luck) in the long run it would simply mean the extinction of the human race. In practice though Trump revealed just how frail you actually are. The more likely scenario is that the anemic right-wing will begin to acquire immunizing traits (something that is already easily observable) and eventually destroy you.

When all the factors are combined together (even after the excessive breeding etc), liberalism tends to increase in the total population at approximately 1 percentage point per year across a huge range of issues. Here are a couple:

It's impossible to poll those issues accurately since expressing the unpopular option can render you unemployable, and especially in the case of the former ostracized nearly everywhere. in practice most people avoid interracial relationships like the plague even if they mouth off otherwise and when told by a doctor their kid will be gay most will remove the responsible genes/pathogens in a nanosecond. Or in the case of liberals, abort outright. The ones who don't will breed themselves out of existance.

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/201...ir-own-family/

Doesn't seem like you've moved the needle on this issue much at all. And with the rise of anti-white racism pushed by liberals the 1990s and 2000s is probably as harmonious as race relationships will get in the west.