Promiscuity: The real reason for Roe...

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

I'm not talking to the report. I'm talking to you who made the claim.

You still haven't backed up your claim.

And I have been referring to the women in that report.

[Cow Poke]

In the first The Christian Post article only Christian women were discussed, to wit its headline "70% of Women Who Get Abortions Identify as Christians, Survey Finds"

In the second The Christian Post article:

According to Abortion Statistics compiled by the Antiochian Orthodox Christian Archdiocese of North America, '"Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical."'

Again, do you actually have a point?

[Cow Poke]

I'm not talking to the report. I'm talking to you who made the claim.

You still haven't backed up your claim.

Can you please clarify for me what her claim is, or was?

Thanks

[CivilDiscourse]

Can you please clarify for me what her claim is, or was?

Thanks

Oh, she said:

I think it is amusing that Christian women [and there may be more given that this survey sample was very small] were availing themselves of a legal option many of their fellow Christians were fighting to remove.

By which her logic in the Justice thomas thread means that she has claimed that Christian Women are responsible for all abortions.

[Mountain Man]

It illustrates a somewhat ironic situation. According to the OP



Numbered among those [according to @seer] are Christian women who attended church [some more than once a week] and who availed themselves of legal abortions.

And?

[EvoUK]

The OP seems indistinguishable from parody.

I'm still a bit surprised that no one has called the OP out as being a pig yet. That so many jumped on board is frankly disgusting.

Abortion exists because women are promiscuous? Really? Married women or women in long term relationships don't decide to get abortions if needed? It's only 'promiscuous' women? I'd do the rolled-eyed emoji, but to be honest the concept is too foul for such light-hearted emoticons.

[rogue06]

Given the decades long campaign among numerous Christian groups it is evident that Christian women were having abortions. From the quantitative report:

As women considered their abortion decision, the most typical reactions/expectations that
women received from a local church were judgmental or condemning. However, 36% did
not receive any reaction nor had any expectations about how a church would respond

Table 2 – “At that same time, which of the following describe the reaction you received or would
have expected to receive from a local church as you considered this decision? (Select all that
apply)”

The reaction I received or expected was…

Loving	13%
Cold	16%
Caring	16%
Judgmental	33%
Condemning	26%
Helpful	14%
Informative	9%
Indifferent	8%
Did not receive any reaction nor expectations	36%
None of these	5%

Women who were attending church at least once a month are more likely to describe the reaction
at church as Loving (25% compared to 6% for those attending less), Caring (31% vs. 7%),
Informative (17% vs. 5%) and Helpful (28% vs. 7%). However, these churchgoers are just as
likely to describe the reaction as Cold (18% vs. 15%), Judgmental (34% vs. 33%), Condemning
(27% vs. 25%), and Indifferent (11% vs. 7%). Those women who were attending church at least
once a month are half as likely to say they did not receive any reaction nor had any expectations
about how a church would respond (21% vs. 44%).

Your non-answer and evasion are nice but irrelevant.

Let's try this again

Does the fact that, in spite of Churches having long campaigned against suicide, including offering counselling etc., many Christians still commit suicide also amuse you?

Why or why not?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

She seems to be saying that a number of Christian women were anti abortion until the chips were down.
I've known a number of women who considered themselves Christian despite an entrenched opposition to any restrictions on the availability of abortion, but it is not beyond reason to suppose that a woman will occasionally switch sides when the rubber* meets the road.

*no pun intended.

And your observation is borne out by the survey, where it is apparent that for some of those Christian women, the issues surrounding those campaigns were set aside when their personal situations required them to avail themselves of a legal abortion.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

I'm still a bit surprised that no one has called the OP out as being a pig yet. That so many jumped on board is frankly disgusting.

Abortion exists because women are promiscuous? Really? Married women or women in long term relationships don't decide to get abortions if needed? It's only 'promiscuous' women? I'd do the rolled-eyed emoji, but to be honest the concept is too foul for such light-hearted emoticons.

The OP offers a simple and easy explanation to a complex issue and chimes with various prejudices concerning the moral character of women who seek abortions.

[Cow Poke]

And?

I don't think she actually has a point, hence the repetitive nonsense.

[tabibito]

And your observation is borne out by the survey, where it is apparent that for some of those Christian women, the issues surrounding those campaigns were set aside when their personal situations required them to avail themselves of a legal abortion.

So? And where does the survey provide details of the women's attitudes prior to the pregnancy? Many probably never had an objection to abortion.

[seer]

I'm still a bit surprised that no one has called the OP out as being a pig yet. That so many jumped on board is frankly disgusting.

Abortion exists because women are promiscuous? Really? Married women or women in long term relationships don't decide to get abortions if needed? It's only 'promiscuous' women? I'd do the rolled-eyed emoji, but to be honest the concept is too foul for such light-hearted emoticons.

Hey idiot, did I only single out women? Abortion serves men as much, if not more, than women. How many women who unexpectedly got pregnant would have kept their child if they had a committed boy friend or husband by their side?

Abortion as the Ultimate Male Chauvinism

https://www.teii.org/women-their-unb...te-chauvinism/

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

So? And where does the survey provide details of the women's attitudes prior to the pregnancy?

The quantitative survey shows the questions, tabulates the responses, and breaks those down.

Many probably never had an objection to abortion.

On what evidence from the survey do you make that observation?

[EvoUK]

Hey idiot, did I only single out women? Abortion serves men as much, if not more, than women. How many women who unexpectedly got pregnant would have kept their child if they had a committed boy friend or husband by their side?

Abortion as the Ultimate Male Chauvinism

https://www.teii.org/women-their-unb...te-chauvinism/

You've stolen their agency and the use of their bodies for 9 months, and then you start a thread on how it's all about 'promiscuity' and all the equally minging posters chime in. You're a pig.

[Cow Poke]

The quantitative survey shows the questions, tabulates the responses, and breaks those down.

So, you SHOULD actually be able to make a point rather than shout "The SURVEY, the POLL, the ARTICLE"..... You can't, hence the diversions.