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  • #16
    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Not really. Margaret Sanger was actually staunchly opposed to abortion and wanted birth control to be available which was illegal back then. For decades PP was anti-abortion but over time morphed into the biggest supporter of it.
    Yes but she was right on the edge of the forced sterilization and eugenics thing, which she walked back after the Nazi experiment.
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    • #17
      Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
      For economic reasons, women may prefer to rear fewer children. Those that are wanted will fare better. Abortion does not kill children - it saves them from poverty. Abortion is salvation - sacrifice one to save another - a very Christian ethic don't you think?
      If you've been spelling "Jesus" M-O-L-O-C-H this whole time, we might be getting close to finding the root of your problem.
      "The Jesus Christ who saves sinners is the same Christ who beckons his followers to serious use of their minds for serious explorations of the world." - Mark Noll

      "It cannot be that the people should grow in grace unless they give themselves to reading." - John Wesley

      "Wherever men are still theological, there is still some chance of their being logical." - G. K. Chesterton

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      • #18
        Originally posted by brain stops at the firstfloor
        Abortion is salvation - sacrifice one to save another - a very Christian ethic don't you think?
        Self-sacrifice, you moron. Jesus never commanded us to sacrifice someone else against their will.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #19
          Originally posted by seer View Post
          Yes but she was right on the edge of the forced sterilization and eugenics thing, which she walked back after the Nazi experiment.
          While she was a fan of eugenics (one of the reasons I don't care for her) she was opposed to abortion, the support of which she is now often accused of.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            stopping abortion doesn't punish women.
            It's unwarranted interference and none of your business.

            It saves them from becoming murderers.
            ...in your personal opinion. OTOH the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that abortion laws are subject to the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. And that the procurement of an abortion is a constitutional right during the first and second trimesters of a pregnancy.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
              For economic reasons, women may prefer to rear fewer children.
              Which is a bad priority. Pope St Pius X was one of 21 and raised on what in English is called a "dirt floor" - doesn't mean dirty, means it was stamped earth.

              Probably the other villagers had danced a forlana to stamp it down to a useable floor.

              Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
              Those that are wanted will fare better.
              Those that "are wanted" after others were aborted as "unwanted" will obviously feel like "projects".

              Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
              Abortion does not kill children - it saves them from poverty.
              Poverty is preferrable to slavery, and both the killed and those enslaved are children.

              Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
              Abortion is salvation - sacrifice one to save another - a very Christian ethic don't you think?
              Abortion is more like human sacrifice in a Molochist way, especially as material wellbeing is here the religious value.
              http://notontimsblogroundhere.blogspot.fr/p/apologetics-section.html

              Thanks, Sparko, for telling how I add the link here!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by seer View Post
                Yes but she was right on the edge of the forced sterilization and eugenics thing, which she walked back after the Nazi experiment.
                http://notontimsblogroundhere.blogspot.fr/p/apologetics-section.html

                Thanks, Sparko, for telling how I add the link here!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                  OTOH the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that abortion laws are subject to the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. And that the procurement of an abortion is a constitutional right during the first and second trimesters of a pregnancy.
                  Can an amendment override the Supreme Court rulings?

                  During XXth C. Supreme Court has been seriously Masonic.
                  http://notontimsblogroundhere.blogspot.fr/p/apologetics-section.html

                  Thanks, Sparko, for telling how I add the link here!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by seer View Post
                    Nothing new here, the Mexico City Policy is signed into law, or rescinded, depending upon the political party in charge. Unfortunately for its supporters, the policy seems to have the opposite effect intended. The abortion rate goes up when the government funding of these NGO's goes down. Similar to the effect of republican policies regarding PP, when access to it goes down, the abortion rate goes up. Way to go pro lifers!

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                    • #25
                      It's unwarranted interference and none of your business.
                      It's injustice, and so it is part of my business.

                      OTOH the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that abortion laws are subject to the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. And that the procurement of an abortion is a constitutional right during the first and second trimesters of a pregnancy.
                      The Supreme Court is not the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. They're neither infallible nor do we owe their opinions assent of will. It's perfectly legitimate to view their opinions here as misguided and to try to promote those judges that would make more just judgments in place.

                      A new shipment of conservative judges are coming in, things might change.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                        It's injustice, and so it is part of my business.



                        The Supreme Court is not the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. They're neither infallible nor do we owe their opinions assent of will. It's perfectly legitimate to view their opinions here as misguided and to try to promote those judges that would make more just judgments in place.

                        A new shipment of conservative judges are coming in, things might change.
                        True, abortions may soon be on the increase.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                          It's unwarranted interference and none of your business.
                          stopping murder is everybody's business. Women don't get pregnant by themselves. Men have as much say in the matter as anyone else.


                          ...in your personal opinion. OTOH the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that abortion laws are subject to the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. And that the procurement of an abortion is a constitutional right during the first and second trimesters of a pregnancy.
                          Are you insane? Abortion is not a constitutional right. Stop your idiotic trolling.

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                          • #28
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                            Gotta love the ironic caption since the abortions that Planned Parenthood endorses certainly does more than endanger children.

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              stopping murder is everybody's business. Women don't get pregnant by themselves. Men have as much say in the matter as anyone else.
                              Are you insane? Abortion is not a constitutional right. Stop your idiotic trolling.
                              Not so. The Court argued in its In Roe v Wade ruling that the Constitution's First, Fourth, Ninth, and Fourteenth Amendments protect the rights of the woman in such a situation.

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                              • #30
                                That is just stupid Tass. You don't have to be religious to see that human life begins at conception and should be protected. If I follow your logic the Nazis would have been completely justified if they had the support of their courts.
                                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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