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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostFrom less than an hour prior to when you asked me, and to which you even replied.
Here it is again with my emphasis.
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostDuring Jesus' lifetime He hadn't yet fulfilled the Law, so that is no surprise. And while Paul was a strong advocate for abolishing the circumcision requirement, he was not the one to do so. That was the Council of Jerusalem that dropped it as a precondition for new Gentile converts in what is known as the Apostolic Decree.
As for baptism, this from the Jewish Encyclopedia entry on Baptism:
"According to rabbinical teachings, which dominated even during the existence of the Temple (Pes. viii. 8), Baptism, next to circumcision and sacrifice, was an absolutely necessary condition to be fulfilled by a proselyte to Judaism (Yeb. 46b, 47b; Ker. 9a; 'Ab. Zarah 57a; Shab. 135a; Yer. Kid. iii. 14, 64d).
While circumcision was regarded as more important, they were both regarded as "seals."
The entry further notes
But as circumcision was discarded by Christianity, and the sacrifices had ceased, Baptism remained the sole condition for initiation into religious life
Hence Paul hardly replaced circumcision with baptism since baptism was already regarded as essential.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
I swear sometimwa she only reads a word or two that jumps out at her from someone's post and nothing else
Show me in the original post rogue06 made to me [and given below] where he mentions he was using a pdf copy of the JE.
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostDuring Jesus' lifetime He hadn't yet fulfilled the Law, so that is no surprise. And while Paul was a strong advocate for abolishing the circumcision requirement, he was not the one to do so. That was the Council of Jerusalem that dropped it as a precondition for new Gentile converts in what is known as the Apostolic Decree.
As for baptism, this from the Jewish Encyclopedia entry on Baptism:
"According to rabbinical teachings, which dominated even during the existence of the Temple (Pes. viii. 8), Baptism, next to circumcision and sacrifice, was an absolutely necessary condition to be fulfilled by a proselyte to Judaism (Yeb. 46b, 47b; Ker. 9a; 'Ab. Zarah 57a; Shab. 135a; Yer. Kid. iii. 14, 64d).
While circumcision was regarded as more important, they were both regarded as "seals."
The entry further notes
But as circumcision was discarded by Christianity, and the sacrifices had ceased, Baptism remained the sole condition for initiation into religious life
Hence Paul hardly replaced circumcision with baptism since baptism was already regarded as essential."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostInteresting. I'm using a pdf copy of the Jewish Encyclopedia that contains the hyperlinks.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostHere's a challenge for you. Rogue made the following post well before you asked "where":
Why did you respond to said post (I quote you beliw) an hour before you asked "where?" wrt rogue stating they used a pdf?
I'll be waiting, snookums."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
You made no mention of a pdf copy in your original post.
But you saw where I wrote that I got it from a pdf, and even responded to it -- and yet you still had ask "where"
I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostSaw no need to.
I asked "Where?" in relation to your original post.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Yet made direct mention of a pdf version IN THE POST YOU QUOTED AND RESPONDED TO an HOUR before you asked "where".....
"As for baptism, this from the Jewish Encyclopedia entry on Baptism: [I am using a pdf version] "
We would all have known his source was not the online copy of the JE here https://jewishencyclopedia.com/"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
But he gave no such comment in his original post. Had he written in his original post
"As for baptism, this from the Jewish Encyclopedia entry on Baptism: [I am using a pdf version] "
We would all have known his source was not the online copy of the JE here https://jewishencyclopedia.com/
You absolute twit.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
He didn't have to. Because he stated it in a followup post. One that you responded directly to and QUOTED, a full HOUR before you asked where he said it was a pdf.
we did know. Because he said so. And you quoted him saying so. And hour before you asked where he said it was a pdf.
You absolute twit.Last edited by Hypatia_Alexandria; 04-02-2022, 10:37 AM."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
He only stated it after I had pointed out the anomalies between what he posted in his original comment and the same text as it appears in the JE online - here https://jewishencyclopedia.com/
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
And yet stated it before you asked where he had said it was a pdf. A post you responded to, an hour before you asked said question. Did you take your extra stupid pills today or what?"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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