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University of Wisconsin stands by 'Problem of Whiteness' course
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostDo you think that the professor here is not an academic?Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostThe question was posed to Jedidiah, who considered 'academic' to be the key term here. Until he answers, I have not missed anything at all here.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostAh, sorry: I missed that post. The only discussion of a course description I'd noticed was in the OP. Thanks for pointing it out.
But even in the context of the full course description, I don't even feel like it's a stretch to say that "institutional racism" is meaningfully distinct from segregation-era personal prejudice or eugenic theory.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Spartacus View Post"Have you ever wondered what it really means to be white? If you're like most people, the answer is probably 'no.' But here is your chance!," reads the course description.
"In this class, we will ask what an ethical white identity entails, what it means to be #woke, and consider the journal Race Traitor's motto, 'treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity.'"
The course description says it includes readings from W.E.B. Du Bois, Ta-Nehisi Coates and the professor's own article analyzing Rachel Dolezal.
Where is it asserted that to be white is to be racist?
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Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostRead more carefully, please. I asserted that institutional racism is distinct from segregation-era racial prejudice.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Posthttp://www.cnn.com/2016/12/23/health...rnd/index.html
The University of Wisconsin-Madison is offering a course next semester called "The Problem of Whiteness," and it's not sitting well with a Republican legislator.
Wisconsin Rep. Dave Murphy, who is also the chairman of the Assembly Committee on Colleges and Universities, has asked the university to cancel the course, saying it prompts racial division.
"I am extremely concerned that UW-Madison finds it appropriate to teach a course called, 'The Problem of Whiteness,' with the premise that white people are racist," Murphy said in a statement this week. He even threatened to pull funding for the state university.
The course, taught by Professor Damon Sajnani, is part of the African Cultural Studies program at the university's College of Letters and Science.
"Have you ever wondered what it really means to be white? If you're like most people, the answer is probably 'no.' But here is your chance!," reads the course description.
"In this class, we will ask what an ethical white identity entails, what it means to be #woke, and consider the journal Race Traitor's motto, 'treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity.'"
The course description says it includes readings from W.E.B. Du Bois, Ta-Nehisi Coates and the professor's own article analyzing Rachel Dolezal.
Murphy said the university must discontinue the class.
"If UW-Madison stands with this professor, I don't know how the university can expect the taxpayers to stand with UW-Madison," he wrote.
The university defended its curriculum and said it takes pride in offering a variety of courses.
"We believe this course, which is one of thousands offered at our university, will benefit students who are interested in developing a deeper understanding of race issues. The course is a challenge and response to racism of all kinds," read the university statement
Murphy also questioned the university's decision to have Sajnani teach the course.
"Even more troubling, the course is taught by a self-described 'international radical' professor whose views are a slap in the face to the taxpayers who are expected to pay for this garbage," said Murphy.
In his statement, he referred to Sajnani's controversial tweets on topics such as police brutality and the Ku Klux Klan.
Murphy was joined in his criticism by Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke, who wrote on Twitter, "This is racism against white people. ALL racism is wrong."
The professor is standing by his class and continues to share messages of support on his Twitter page.
"Good day haters! Keep fueling me with your Tomfoolery. The angrier whites are about interrogating their identity the greater is the need for it," he stated on Twitter.
"My only complaint about this course is that I already graduated from the UW and can't take it," one person posted."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostIs there something specific you disagree with in this professor's course? Do you think the professor should be censored or fired?
Um, besides being irrational and racist itself, you mean?"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Spartacus View Post"Have you ever wondered what it really means to be white? If you're like most people, the answer is probably 'no.' But here is your chance!," reads the course description.
"In this class, we will ask what an ethical white identity entails, what it means to be #woke, and consider the journal Race Traitor's motto, 'treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity.'"
The course description says it includes readings from W.E.B. Du Bois, Ta-Nehisi Coates and the professor's own article analyzing Rachel Dolezal.
Where is it asserted that to be white is to be racist?
And lol @ an academic course including the writings of Ta-Nehisi Coates, a double digit IQ manchild who couldn't produce a serious thought if his life depended on it."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostIf the course was renamed to "The problems of colonialism and the colonialist mindset" while retaining largely the same content, would that pass muster? Is mention of "whiteness" just a trigger-word for you guys for subjects that have been discussed by reasonable people for a century?Last edited by RumTumTugger; 12-23-2016, 10:15 PM.
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Wrong word, guys - you're looking for 'irrational'.
Academic freedom has limits - if you want to teach racist rantings you can do so - but you shouldn't be charging people for it and you REALLY shouldn't be pretending that this somehow augments actual education.
Neither does basket weaving - which I'd love to take - or a host of other things. People pay good money for degrees that are supposed to help them get somewhere in life. This kind of irrational racism doesn't do that - and isn't arguably a good idea for an elective, either."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostWrong word, guys - you're looking for 'irrational'.
Academic freedom has limits - if you want to teach racist rantings you can do so - but you shouldn't be charging people for it and you REALLY shouldn't be pretending that this somehow augments actual education.
Neither does basket weaving - which I'd love to take - or a host of other things. People pay good money for degrees that are supposed to help them get somewhere in life. This kind of irrational racism doesn't do that - and isn't arguably a good idea for an elective, either.Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostRead more carefully, please. I asserted that institutional racism is distinct from segregation-era racial prejudice."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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