University of Wisconsin stands by 'Problem of Whiteness' course

[robrecht]

That's a meaningless term Rob.

Tell that to Jedidiah. He said that should be the key word.

[Bill the Cat]

Tell that to Jedidiah. He said that should be the key word.

In the class, yes. Not the Professor himself.

[robrecht]

In the class, yes. Not the Professor himself.

Do you believe the course is not an academic course?

[Bill the Cat]

Do you believe the course is not an academic course?

Define "academic".

[robrecht]

Define "academic".

[Bill the Cat]

Seer's right. For a really smart guy, you sure seem to miss a lot. When you ask if the class is "academic", if you mean it is something that is being taught, then yes. If you mea something of VALUE is being taught, then no.

[robrecht]

It is admittedly and unapologetically racist, and the professor revels in that very fact.

Not in cases like this. Some things simply don't need to be taught.

There may be some value in understandingthe perspectives of others, don't you think?

[Bill the Cat]

There may be some value in understanding the perspectives of others, don't you think?

Again, too vague to mean anything.

[robrecht]

Seer's right. For a really smart guy, you sure seem to miss a lot. When you ask if the class is "academic", if you mean it is something that is being taught, then yes. If you mea something of VALUE is being taught, then no.

The question was posed to Jedidiah, who considered 'academic' to be the key term here. Until he answers, I have not missed anything at all here.

[robrecht]

Again, too vague to mean anything.

You are the one who believes the professor and university president should be fired. I still think that it is you who should provide some specifics. I have merely posed a question to you.

[Bill the Cat]

You are the one who believes the professor and university president should be fired. I still think that it is you who should provide some specifics. I have merely posed a question to you.

You posed a vague question that has no concrete meaning to it. How much value is "some", and at what point is "some" not enough to warrant teaching it? And what perspectives are unacceptable? Should we teach on the value of the KKK on male bonding rituals? There just isn't anything concrete in your question to actually engage.

[seer]

Nothing specific about the course?

Yes, are you dense, from the article: 'The Problem of Whiteness,' with the premise that white people are racist" That is a false premise. And you know very well that if a course began with the premise that blacks are racist or lazy, that professor would be fired. And you know it.

[robrecht]

You posed a vague question that has no concrete meaning to it. How much value is "some", and at what point is "some" not enough to warrant teaching it? And what perspectives are unacceptable? Should we teach on the value of the KKK on male bonding rituals? There just isn't anything concrete in your question to actually engage.

You can avoid the question if you want, but I am just asking if you have any specific information about the course that justifies your contention that the professor and university president should both be fired. Should your opinion on the employment of others not be questioned for some reason?

[robrecht]

Yes, are you dense, from the article: 'The Problem of Whiteness,' with the premise that white people are racist" That is a false premise. And you know very well that if a course began with the premise that blacks are racist or lazy, that professor would be fired. And you know it.

That is the opinion of a local politician. Has he taken the course? Should individual politicians be making decisions about what should be taught in universities? Are there not more appropriate bodies for making such decisions?

[Bill the Cat]

You can avoid the question if you want,

I'm not avoiding anything. I'm asking you to ask something that can be quantified.

but I am just asking if you have any specific information about the course that justifies your contention that the professor and university president should both be fired.

Seer already answered that. But here's the course description:

Should your opinion on the employment of others not be questioned for some reason?

Question away. But make your questions actually mean something instead of vague "some value" nonsense. And in response to my calling for the professor's job, it comes with clear precedent:

http://college.usatoday.com/2015/11/...arks-in-class/
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/22815/
http://www.inquisitr.com/3581321/bla...efinite-leave/
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...st_tweets.html
https://diversitychronicle.wordpress...omology-class/
http://time.com/3882330/duke-professor-racist-comments/


So, as you can see, academia is rife with instances of calls for termination of alleged racism.