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  • How The US Military Hid An Airstrike That Murdered Dozens Of Civilians In Syria

    Absolute insanity. Straight up dropped bombs on a group of people they knew were civilians, and then denied and covered it up since 2019.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-hid-air...155852998.html


    In the last days of the battle against the Islamic State group in Syria, when members of the once-fierce caliphate were cornered in a dirt field next to a town called Baghuz, a U.S. military drone circled high overhead, hunting for military targets. But it saw only a large crowd of women and children huddled against a river bank.

    Without warning, a U.S. F-15E attack jet streaked across the drone’s high-definition field of vision and dropped a 500-pound bomb on the crowd. Then a jet dropped one 2,000-pound bomb, then another.

    It was March 18, 2019. At the U.S. military’s busy Combined Air Operations Center at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar, uniformed personnel watching the live drone footage looked on in stunned disbelief.
    “Who dropped that?” a confused analyst typed on a secure chat system being used by those monitoring the drone. Another responded, “We just dropped on 50 women and children.”

    An initial battle damage assessment quickly found that the number of dead was actually about 70.

    The Baghuz strike was one of the largest civilian casualty incidents of the war against the Islamic State, but it has never been publicly acknowledged by the U.S. military. The details, reported here for the first time, show that the death toll was almost immediately apparent to military officials. A legal officer flagged the strike as a possible war crime that required an investigation. But at nearly every step, the military made moves that concealed the catastrophic strike. The death toll was downplayed. Reports were delayed, sanitized and classified. U.S.-led coalition forces bulldozed the blast site. And top leaders were not notified.

    The Defense Department’s independent inspector general began an inquiry, but the report containing its findings was stalled and stripped of any mention of the strike.

    “Leadership just seemed so set on burying this,” said Gene Tate, an evaluator who worked on the case for the inspector general’s office and agreed to discuss the aspects that were not classified.

    Tate, a former Navy officer who had worked for years as a civilian analyst with the Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Counterterrorism Center before moving to the inspector general’s office, said he criticized the lack of action and was eventually forced out of his job.

    The details of the strikes were pieced together by The New York Times over months from confidential documents and descriptions of classified reports as well as interviews with personnel directly involved and officials with top secret security clearances who discussed the incident on the condition that they not be named.

    The Times investigation found that the bombing had been called in by a classified U.S. special operations unit, Task Force 9, which was in charge of ground operations in Syria. The task force operated in such secrecy that at times it did not inform even its own military partners of its actions. In the case of the Baghuz bombing, the U.S. Air Force command in Qatar had no idea the strike was coming.


    After the strike, an alarmed Air Force intelligence officer in the operations center called over an Air Force lawyer in charge of determining the legality of strikes. The lawyer ordered the F-15E squadron and the drone crew to preserve all video and other evidence. He went upstairs and reported the strike to his chain of command, saying it was a possible violation of the law of armed conflict — a war crime — and regulations required a thorough, independent investigation.

    But a thorough, independent investigation never happened.

    This past week, after the Times sent its findings to U.S. Central Command, which oversaw the air war in Syria, the command acknowledged the strikes for the first time, saying 80 people were killed but the airstrikes were justified. It said the bombs killed 16 fighters and four civilians. As for the other 60 people killed, the statement said it was not clear that they were civilians, in part because women and children in the Islamic State sometimes took up arms.

    The only assessment done immediately after the strike was performed by the same ground unit that ordered the strike. It determined that the bombing was lawful because it killed only a small number of civilians while targeting Islamic State fighters in an attempt to protect coalition forces. Therefore, no formal war crime notification, criminal investigation or disciplinary action was warranted.

    But the Air Force lawyer, Lt. Col. Dean Korsak, believed he had witnessed possible war crimes and repeatedly pressed his leadership and Air Force criminal investigators to act. When they did not, he alerted the Defense Department’s independent inspector general. Two years after the strike, seeing no evidence that the watchdog agency was taking action, Korsak emailed the Senate Armed Services Committee.

    Korsak did not respond to requests for comment.

    Lots more at the link.

  • #2
    Not ignoring this - doing some more research into it.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #3
      It is a very long article but it highlights a military cover-up and wanton disregard by some US forces for protecting civilians.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/13/u...sultPosition=1

      In the last days of the battle against the Islamic State in Syria, when members of the once-fierce caliphate were cornered in a dirt field next to a town called Baghuz, a U.S. military drone circled high overhead, hunting for military targets. But it saw only a large crowd of women and children huddled against a river bank.

      Without warning, an American F-15E attack jet streaked across the drone’s high-definition field of vision and dropped a 500-pound bomb on the crowd, swallowing it in a shuddering blast. As the smoke cleared, a few people stumbled away in search of cover. Then a jet tracking them dropped one 2,000-pound bomb, then another, killing most of the survivors.

      It was March 18, 2019. At the U.S. military’s busy Combined Air Operations Center at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar, uniformed personnel watching the live drone footage looked on in stunned disbelief, according to one officer who was there.

      “Who dropped that?” a confused analyst typed on a secure chat system being used by those monitoring the drone, two people who reviewed the chat log recalled. Another responded, “We just dropped on 50 women and children.”

      An initial battle damage assessment quickly found that the number of dead was actually about 70.

      The Baghuz strike was one of the largest civilian casualty incidents of the war against the Islamic State, but it has never been publicly acknowledged by the U.S. military. The details, reported here for the first time, show that the death toll was almost immediately apparent to military officials. A legal officer flagged the strike as a possible war crime that required an investigation. But at nearly every step, the military made moves that concealed the catastrophic strike. The death toll was downplayed. Reports were delayed, sanitized and classified. United States-led coalition forces bulldozed the blast site. And top leaders were not notified.

      The Defense Department’s independent inspector general began an inquiry, but the report containing its findings was stalled and stripped of any mention of the strike.

      “Leadership just seemed so set on burying this. No one wanted anything to do with it,” said Gene Tate, an evaluator who worked on the case for the inspector general’s office and agreed to discuss the aspects that were not classified. “It makes you lose faith in the system when people are trying to do what’s right but no one in positions of leadership wants to hear it.” Mr. Tate, a former Navy officer who had worked for years as a civilian analyst with the Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Counterterrorism Center before moving to the inspector general’s office, said he criticized the lack of action and was eventually forced out of his job.

      The details of the strikes were pieced together by The New York Times over months from confidential documents and descriptions of classified reports, as well as interviews with personnel directly involved, and officials with top secret security clearances who discussed the incident on the condition that they not be named.

      The Times investigation found that the bombing had been called in by a classified American special operations unit, Task Force 9, which was in charge of ground operations in Syria. The task force operated in such secrecy that at times it did not inform even its own military partners of its actions. In the case of the Baghuz bombing, the American Air Force command in Qatar had no idea the strike was coming, an officer who served at the command center said.

      In the minutes after the strike, an alarmed Air Force intelligence officer in the operations center called over an Air Force lawyer in charge of determining the legality of strikes. The lawyer ordered the F-15E squadron and the drone crew to preserve all video and other evidence, according to documents obtained by The Times. He went upstairs and reported the strike to his chain of command, saying it was a possible violation of the law of armed conflict — a war crime — and regulations required a thorough, independent investigation.

      But a thorough, independent investigation never happened.

      [...]
      The only assessment done immediately after the strike was performed by the same ground unit that ordered the strike. It determined that the bombing was lawful because it killed only a small number of civilians while targeting Islamic State fighters in an attempt to protect coalition forces, the command said. Therefore no formal war crime notification, criminal investigation or disciplinary action was warranted, it said, adding that the other deaths were accidental.

      [...]
      The United States portrayed the air war against the Islamic State as the most precise and humane bombing campaign in its history. The military said every report of civilian casualties was investigated and the findings reported publicly, creating what the military called a model of accountability.

      But the strikes on Baghuz tell a different story.

      The details suggest that while the military put strict rules in place to protect civilians, the Special Operations task force repeatedly used other rules to skirt them. The military teams counting casualties rarely had the time, resources or incentive to do accurate work. And troops rarely faced repercussions when they caused civilian deaths. [...]


      The aftermath of that approach was plain to see. A number of Syrian towns, including the regional capital, Raqqa, were reduced to little more than rubble. Human rights organizations reported that the coalition caused thousands of civilian deaths during the war. Hundreds of military assessment reports examined by The Times show the task force was implicated in nearly one in five coalition civilian casualty incidents in the region.

      Publicly, the coalition insisted the numbers were much lower. Privately, it became overwhelmed by the volume of civilian casualty claims reported by locals, humanitarian groups and the news media, and a backlog of civilian casualty assessment reports sat unexamined for months, two people who compiled the reports said.

      [...]
      Human rights groups were not the only ones sounding the alarm. C.I.A. officers working in Syria grew so alarmed over the task force’s strikes that agents reported their concern to the Department of Defense inspector general, which investigated the claims and produced a report. The results of that report are top secret, but the former task force officer, who reviewed the report, said the C.I.A. officers alleged that in about 10 incidents, the secretive task force hit targets knowing civilians would be killed.


      "It ain't necessarily so
      The things that you're liable
      To read in the Bible
      It ain't necessarily so
      ."

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      • Hypatia_Alexandria
        Hypatia_Alexandria commented
        Editing a comment
        Note to moderators.

        As this is a duplicate thread on the same topic, could someone kindly amalgamate it with @Gondwanaland's thread?
        Many thanks.

        H_A


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      • #5
        Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
        Absolute insanity. Straight up dropped bombs on a group of people they knew were civilians, and then denied and covered it up since 2019.

        https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-hid-air...155852998.html



        Lots more at the link.
        My apologies. I appear to have started a thread on the same topic.

        "It ain't necessarily so
        The things that you're liable
        To read in the Bible
        It ain't necessarily so
        ."

        Sportin' Life
        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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        • #6
          Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

          My apologies. I appear to have started a thread on the same topic.
          I combined the threads.

          I'm always still in trouble again

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          • #7
            I don't know what there is to discuss - if true, this is a horrible preventable tragedy. And it's hard to prove a negative, and I see nothing that indicates this report is inaccurate.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #8
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              I combined the threads.
              Thank you.
              "It ain't necessarily so
              The things that you're liable
              To read in the Bible
              It ain't necessarily so
              ."

              Sportin' Life
              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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              • #9
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                I don't know what there is to discuss - if true, this is a horrible preventable tragedy. And it's hard to prove a negative, and I see nothing that indicates this report is inaccurate.
                Do you suspect it might not "true"?
                "It ain't necessarily so
                The things that you're liable
                To read in the Bible
                It ain't necessarily so
                ."

                Sportin' Life
                Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                  Do you suspect it might not "true"?
                  I ALWAYS approach such things with suspicion. I look for any reason it might be a hit-piece or over-exaggerated, or distorted.

                  I'm clearly admitting I find no reason not to believe it to be true.

                  Which is why I said...

                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  ...and I see nothing that indicates this report is inaccurate.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                    I ALWAYS approach such things with suspicion. I look for any reason it might be a hit-piece or over-exaggerated, or distorted.

                    I'm clearly admitting I find no reason not to believe it to be true.

                    Which is why I said...
                    You can certainly understand from this cover up and the behaviour of US Special Forces as recounted in the article, why so many countries [especially Muslim] revile the USA.
                    "It ain't necessarily so
                    The things that you're liable
                    To read in the Bible
                    It ain't necessarily so
                    ."

                    Sportin' Life
                    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                      You can certainly understand from this cover up and the behaviour of US Special Forces as recounted in the article, why so many countries [especially Muslim] revile the USA.
                      The Islamic world doesn't need something like this to revile "The Great Satan".

                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                        The Islamic world doesn't need something like this to revile "The Great Satan".
                        I understand it was Ayatollah Khomeini who first came up with the phrase as a derogatory reference to the USA which, given the then contemporary and historical circumstances, was not unsurprising.
                        "It ain't necessarily so
                        The things that you're liable
                        To read in the Bible
                        It ain't necessarily so
                        ."

                        Sportin' Life
                        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                        • #14
                          I'm taking the report with suspicion. I don't trust the NYT's "anonymous sources". And if any "official" is leaking classified intel to the NYT, they deserve LONG jail sentences.
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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                            I understand it was Ayatollah Khomeini who first came up with the phrase as a derogatory reference to the USA which, given the then contemporary and historical circumstances, was not unsurprising.
                            Haters gotta hate.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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