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"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
And? He's dead either way. "Ethically, I can't see the difference""It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
I will bow to your superior knowledge regarding the gas chambers, but that doesn't change the point I was making."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Excuse? No. But, I will definitely say you are trying to downplay it so that your country doesn't stick out like a sore thumb.
However, as people seem interested in numbers and while the Nazi atrocities took place over a comparatively short period of time, the totals for other countries over much longer periods of time may well exceed that of Hitler's Germany. Just look at the numbers that died during famines under British rule in India."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
I can tell you the last thing that went through his head."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
The horror of the Nazi regime is the mechanisation of mass murder and the horrifying mundanity of the entire thing. The railway workers who must have had some inkling of what those trains carried, staff at IG Farben that took the orders for Zyklon B, the designers of the crematoria, the SS who worked in the camps yet went home each evening to their families. That is the sheer unadulterated obscenity and nothing like that had ever been attempted in history - to turn mass murder into a production line.
However, as people seem interested in numbers and while the Nazi atrocities took place over a comparatively short period of time, the totals for other countries over much longer periods of time may well exceed that of Hitler's Germany. Just look at the numbers that died during famines under British rule in India.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
I regard all cruel, wanton and deliberate killing of innocent people, regardless of the number of people involved, to be an atrocity. Don't you?
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Sure. And yet I can also regard the wanton and deliberate killing of 20 innocent people to be a lot worse than one. Can't you?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
I think this is yet another case where she, somehow, thinks (or wishes) her position were morally superior, so that requires ignoring science, math, facts, reality...
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Yeah she seems to be trying to say "I care so much more than you guys because to me even the killing of one person is as bad as killing a million!" and doesn't seem to see that killing a million IS worse even though killing one is bad too.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Yeah she seems to be trying to say "I care so much more than you guys because to me even the killing of one person is as bad as killing a million!" and doesn't seem to see that killing a million IS worse even though killing one is bad too.
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In the case of somebody who murders another, there is always the possibility that there was little no forethought, or that it was a crime of passion, or that the person would actually be remorseful.
When you kill multiple people, all that goes out the window.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Time is an integral part of determining severity of an atrocity.
Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View PostAfter all, over a long enough time, your chance of dying is 100%. Therefore over a long enough time, virtually EVERYTHING has a higher death count.Last edited by Hypatia_Alexandria; 10-21-2021, 06:12 AM."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
This attempt at moral superiority is often made by persons with really inferior morals."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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