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  • Fox News issues-based polling

    Fox News did a very interesting issues-focused national poll in the week leading up to election day which gives interesting insights into what the American population thinks on issues. It surveyed 110,000 people, across all 50 states, on quite a range of issues.

    It seemed to have a slight conservative bias as slightly more respondents reported leaning Republican than Democratic and slightly more reported being conservative than liberal.

    Nonetheless the results on different issues favored very progressive policy positions. Screenshots from the Fox News segment on The Five on the topic on election night (data behind these graphics is on the Fox News website), as they reported this polling:

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    As the above graphics show, pluralities or outright majorities favored government-run healthcare, more gun control, not changing Roe v Wade, a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants, requiring people to wear masks in public, and wanted Bigger government rather than Smaller government. They thought racism was a serious problem in society and in policing, and that the Trump administration had made the US less safe and not been tough enough on Russia.

    Being familiar with this sort of polling - and having an idea of what percentage of the country is in each category - is helpful to ensure we have an idea of what different people think and to make sure we aren't too stuck in our own bubbles. Even if we've in a majority-position or plurality position ourselves on an issue, it's helpful to understand number of people who hold different views and what their views are.

    From looking at that polling I am inclined to agree with a comment I heard several years ago: "The US is full of people who view themselves as 'conservatives' and 'Republicans' but if you actually ask their opinions on specific policies on specific topics, the policy positions they tell you they favour will be very progressive and will be policy positions that the Democrats, not Republicans, are advocating for, and the furtherest left-wing Democrats at that." The 72% who reported favoring or strongly favoring government-run healthcare is an example of this - most of the Democratic party (e.g. Biden) is against bringing in government-run healthcare, to get to that position you've got to go people such as Bernie and AOC on the left-wing end of the Democratic party.

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    The problem with polls showing opposition to overturning Roe v. Wade is that when you look at polls on what people think of abortion regulation, they don't match at all. People say in polls they don't want it overturned but then polls also show support for the very kind of abortion regulation that the Supreme Court forbids in greater percentages than the number that say they want Roe v. Wade overruled. That doesn't make any sense. I think a lot of people aren't very aware of what is or isn't allowed under abortion jurispudence which leads to inconsistent poll results like that.

    In fact, the question isn't really the correct question to begin with. If we're talking the original Roe v. Wade, that thing (along with its often unknown sister case Doe v. Bolton) outlawed virtually all abortion regulation. The Supreme Court later rolled that back a little, but if we're talking original Roe v. Wade then you'd have to toss out even some of the abortion regulation we have right now. So really the question shouldn't be Roe v. Wade, but Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

    Honestly though, irrespective of the abortion issue itself, Roe v. Wade should just be overturned for being terrible jurispudence.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
      The problem with polls showing opposition to overturning Roe v. Wade is that when you look at polls on what people think of abortion regulation, they don't match at all. People say in polls they don't want it overturned but then polls also show support for the very kind of abortion regulation that the Supreme Court forbids in greater percentages than the number that say they want Roe v. Wade overruled. That doesn't make any sense. I think a lot of people aren't very aware of what is or isn't allowed under abortion jurispudence which leads to inconsistent poll results like that.

      In fact, the question isn't really the correct question to begin with. If we're talking the original Roe v. Wade, that thing (along with its often unknown sister case Doe v. Bolton) outlawed virtually all abortion regulation. The Supreme Court later rolled that back a little, but if we're talking original Roe v. Wade then you'd have to toss out even some of the abortion regulation we have right now. So really the question shouldn't be Roe v. Wade, but Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

      Honestly though, irrespective of the abortion issue itself, Roe v. Wade should just be overturned for being terrible jurispudence.
      The same thing happens when asking people about opposition to the ACA vs its constituent provisions (and it's even more striking when asking about "Obamacare"). I don't really know a good way to fix this since the cable news networks (all of them) are responsible for these uninformed voters in their own ways.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
        The problem with polls showing opposition to overturning Roe v. Wade is that when you look at polls on what people think of abortion regulation, they don't match at all.
        They also asked a question about abortion directly:

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        And this question also touched on it:

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
          The problem with polls showing opposition to overturning Roe v. Wade is that when you look at polls on what people think of abortion regulation, they don't match at all. People say in polls they don't want it overturned but then polls also show support for the very kind of abortion regulation that the Supreme Court forbids in greater percentages than the number that say they want Roe v. Wade overruled. That doesn't make any sense. I think a lot of people aren't very aware of what is or isn't allowed under abortion jurispudence which leads to inconsistent poll results like that.

          In fact, the question isn't really the correct question to begin with. If we're talking the original Roe v. Wade, that thing (along with its often unknown sister case Doe v. Bolton) outlawed virtually all abortion regulation. The Supreme Court later rolled that back a little, but if we're talking original Roe v. Wade then you'd have to toss out even some of the abortion regulation we have right now. So really the question shouldn't be Roe v. Wade, but Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

          Honestly though, irrespective of the abortion issue itself, Roe v. Wade should just be overturned for being terrible jurispudence.
          Your bias is extreme and you did not consider the other polls concerning abortion. Also this is a poll from citizen perspective which is more relevant than legal technicalities.

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