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Sexualisation of very young girls - US style
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Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
They're just dance moves for the kids. The immorality is in the reactions from adults.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostPlease tell me you can think of a better way to teach about the immorality of certain behaviors other than getting a group of young girls together and filming them actually engaging in that immoral behavior.
Who knows, you might convince me.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
The movie is a fictional story, but the young female actors are real children who had to actually dress provocatively and dance suggestively in order to portray that fictional story, which means that the director was actually sexually exploiting children in order to make a fictional story about how sexual exploitation of children is "bad."
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
So you agree it is wrong in the movie then? Good.
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Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View PostGet some help. You're starting to sound like one of the lunatics on a forum we both used to frequent who were incapable of making a post without some idiotic attack on the left.
Do you really imagine that the child beauty pagaent phenomenon is solely of the left? If so, you are seriously deluded - particularly seeing it is very strong in the south, a predominantly conservative area. But then, if you admitted that, you wouldn't have a childish slur to throw at the left, would you?
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Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
Because I've seen the film I know that's a misrepresentation. Because you haven't, you don't, which makes your statements not merely dishonest, but recklessly so. Why do you feel — and why not go there — as a Christian — that the actual behavior that's occurring in our society, which we both agree should be stopped, is best addressed by sweeping it under the rug?
This film is a fictional account of actual events in the life of the director. The fiction is that in real life, the behavior is being approved.
You're fighting for the wrong side on this one, Sparkles.
This isn't about a rape movie, and your need to go there says you didn't think your misrepresentation of the actual film, even if it weren't a misrepresentation, had enough merit. And on that, you were right.
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Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
When we were young, we used to think if we closed our eyes, problems would magically go away. In the world of adults, we know that doesn't work.
Please tell me you can think of a better way to teach about the immorality of certain behaviors other than getting a group of young girls together and filming them actually engaging in that immoral behavior.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnd you think the best way to address objectionable behavior in society is to create a film in which little girls actually engage in said objectionable behavior while other characters look on with disapproval?
I honestly can not wrap my head around such backwards thinking.
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Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
Because I've seen the film I know that's a misrepresentation. Because you haven't, you don't, which makes your statements not merely dishonest, but recklessly so. Why do you feel — and why not go there — as a Christian — that the actual behavior that's occurring in our society, which we both agree should be stopped, is best addressed by sweeping it under the rug?
This film is a fictional account of actual events in the life of the director. The fiction is that in real life, the behavior is being approved.
You're fighting for the wrong side on this one, Sparkles.
This isn't about a rape movie, and your need to go there says you didn't think your misrepresentation of the actual film, even if it weren't a misrepresentation, had enough merit. And on that, you were right.
Furthermore this behaviour is invariably being pumped out at young girls by large for-profit corporations including the advertising industry, social media, the fashion industry, magazine publishers, various websites, and the music industry.
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Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
Because I've seen the film I know that's a misrepresentation. Because you haven't, you don't, which makes your statements not merely dishonest, but recklessly so. Why do you feel — and why not go there — as a Christian — that the actual behavior that's occurring in our society, which we both agree should be stopped, is best addressed by sweeping it under the rug?
I honestly can not wrap my head around such backwards thinking.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
so it is OK to actually show over sexualization of children making provocative sexual moves (meaning the young actresses actually had to DO it in order to be filmed) if the other actors in the film disapprove of it??
This film is a fictional account of actual events in the life of the director. The fiction is that in real life, the behavior is being approved.
You're fighting for the wrong side on this one, Sparkles.
So if they made a movie where they actually raped women on camera in order to show that rape is bad, that would be OK too?
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
so it is OK to actually show over sexualization of children making provocative sexual moves (meaning the young actresses actually had to DO it in order to be filmed) if the other actors in the film disapprove of it??
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostCorrect.
Just like 'Cuties/Mignonnes'. Period.
Plastering your four year old in make-up, giving her an adult woman's coiffeur, dressing her in various provocative costumes, and then having her gyrate, bump and grind on a stage in the hope that you might win the car, the holiday, or the cash is detestable and consumerist capitalism at its worst where the child is effectively used by the parents as a cash cow.
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