Trump commits treason

[Cow Poke]

Well hacking is criminal in that it comes under 'The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act". And while Russia doesn't have to follow US laws I would have thought that if a US citizen such as Trump engages in or benefits from such activity then he's committed a criminal act...even treasonous given that Putin is hostile to the US.

Nothing like making up your own rules and facts to condemn an opponent.

[Cow Poke]

Criminal isn't the right word, per se, because its not like Russia has to follow our laws, but I'm pretty sure attempting to sabotage an election constitutes an act of war or, at the very least casus belli.

So, Debbie Wasserman Schultz should be indicted? And how many of her associates?

[shunyadragon]

"Things are objectively better..."

If you consider stagnant wages, record low workforce participation, high unemployment (regardless of what the official numbers say), miniscule GDP growth, rising healthcare costs with less choice for patients, out of control illegal immigration, frequent terrorist attacks on our own soil, increased racial tension, distrust of our police fostered by our own president, and that's not even talking about the mess Obama has made on the international scene to be "objectively better". Of course Democrats are cheering about how wonderful everything is even if they have to lie through their teeth to do it. What choice do they have? Do you really expect them to admit that by any objective measure, Obama has been a terrible president?

Things have improved since Bush. It is tough to dig ourselves out of Republican hole dug by billionaire fat cats and banks.

[Cow Poke]

Things have improved since Bush. It is tough to dig ourselves out of Republican hole dug by billionaire fat cats and banks.

But The One was going to stop the Oceans from rising.... He was too focused on forcing Obamacare on us, and further weakening whatever recovery could have happened.

[JimL]

"Things are objectively better..."

If you consider stagnant wages, record low workforce participation, high unemployment (regardless of what the official numbers say), miniscule GDP growth, rising healthcare costs with less choice for patients, out of control illegal immigration, frequent terrorist attacks on our own soil, increased racial tension, distrust of our police fostered by our own president, and that's not even talking about the mess Obama has made on the international scene to be "objectively better". Of course Democrats are cheering about how wonderful everything is even if they have to lie through their teeth to do it. What choice do they have? Do you really expect them to admit that by any objective measure, Obama has been a terrible president?

MM, you and all of your back patters, are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. How convenient for you to forget/ignore what the situation was like when the President took office 8 years ago.
Here are some facts, not Breitbart inspired opinions, about the Obama Presidency.
soapboxie.com/us-politics/14-Facts-About-The-Obama-Presidency-That-Most-People-Dont-Know
I shutter to think of where we would be had we had to endure another republican administration like the Bush years.

[JimL]

But The One was going to stop the Oceans from rising.... He was too focused on forcing Obamacare on us, and further weakening whatever recovery could have happened.

The president can't stop the oceans from rising when he has a republican congress who are either to stupid to believe in science or just don't care about the effects of climate change. Btw, the recovery did happen, despite republican attempts to stop it from happening for selfish political reasons.

[Cow Poke]

The president can't stop the oceans from rising when he has a republican congress...

You actually BOUGHT that?

[Sparko]

You actually BOUGHT that?

but he is the obammessiah! he could do anything


...if only the evil republicans would let him.

[rogue06]

But The One was going to stop the Oceans from rising.... He was too focused on forcing Obamacare on us, and further weakening whatever recovery could have happened.

Worst recovery in nearly 70 years

[rogue06]

You actually BOUGHT that?

obama-isis-sea-level.jpg

[JimL]

but he is the obammessiah! he could do anything


...if only the evil republicans would let him.

Obama got much done despite the evil republican obstructionism, thats one of the reason they hate him so much. Remember Mitch O'connell, our job is to make him a one term president. How'd that work out for ya? Ouch!

[JimL]

Worst recovery in nearly 70 years

Common sense. Worst recession in 70 years by far explains slowest recovery, particulary when you have a republican congress who for political reasons put themselves and their political party before the good of the country.

[Starlight]

New today in the ongoing Trump-Russia lovefest: Trump says he thinks he'd be happy giving Crimea to Putin.

Trump's previous actions in the writing of the Republican platform suggested he would be happy giving Estonia to Putin. Apparently at the root of this is that almost all US banks have blacklisted Trump due to his multiple bankruptcies and constant refusal to pay any bills (Trump apparently tries to save pennies constantly by simply not paying any bills, forcing people to sue him if they want payment. Unpaid people include hundreds of tradespeople such as carpenters who did work in Trump casinos, the lawyers who defended Trump against those lawsuits, tax departments, and recently the little girls who performed a we-love-America freedom dance on stage at one of his rallies.) Because American banks have blacklisted him, Trump has had to seek alternative sources of funding for his business ventures (the man himself appears to have very little money, most of it debt) and has found powerful people in Russia to be a willing source of funding. So he owes them.

Apparently he owes then enough that gifting Putin Crimea and Estonia and mostly abolishing NATO strike Trump as appropriate payment for services rendered. Although I guess Putin probably has enough inside information about Trump's problematic finances and business deals that he could sink Trump's reputation by releasing it, so Trump's arm is being twisted behind his back.

[JimL]

New today in the ongoing Trump-Russia lovefest: Trump says he thinks he'd be happy giving Crimea to Putin.

Trump's previous actions in the writing of the Republican platform suggested he would be happy giving Estonia to Putin. Apparently at the root of this is that almost all US banks have blacklisted Trump due to his multiple bankruptcies and constant refusal to pay any bills (Trump apparently tries to save pennies constantly by simply not paying any bills, forcing people to sue him if they want payment. Unpaid people include hundreds of tradespeople such as carpenters who did work in Trump casinos, the lawyers who defended Trump against those lawsuits, tax departments, and recently the little girls who performed a we-love-America freedom dance on stage at one of his rallies.) Because American banks have blacklisted him, Trump has had to seek alternative sources of funding for his business ventures (the man himself appears to have very little money, most of it debt) and has found powerful people in Russia to be a willing source of funding. So he owes them.

Apparently he owes then enough that gifting Putin Crimea and Estonia and mostly abolishing NATO strike Trump as appropriate payment for services rendered. Although I guess Putin probably has enough inside information about Trump's problematic finances and business deals that he could sink Trump's reputation by releasing it, so Trump's arm is being twisted behind his back.

Not that it matters to the supporters of Trump, but Trump is a pathological liar. In a recent interview he asserted that he doesn't even know Putin, he's never met him or spoken to him. Only problem is he said just the opposite in a previous interview. He said in that interview that he had met with and talked directly to Mr. Putin who seemed to him to be a very nice man. Trumps campaign manager, Paul Manafort, is the same guy that managed the campaign of Putins puppet in Ukraine, who btw lost his election bid in Ukraine and had to flee to Russia for asylum. Now why would a good american like Manafort be working to elect a russian sympathizer to president of the Ukraine against the wishes of the U.S, Europe, and the Ukrainian people themselves? I don't know, but it doesn't look good to me and neither does the fact that Trump is obviously lying about his relationship with Putin.

[Cow Poke]

Not that it matters to the supporters of Trump, but Trump is a pathological liar.

As is Hillary, who was, of course, named after the great explorer... wait, she lied about that. She was born well after he became famous!

They're liars - BOTH of them.

Hillary falls into the category, however, of somebody who would rather climb a tree and tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth, when the truth would work just as well.

Maybe she was just flustered because she was taking on fire while landing in... Oh, yeah, THAT was a steaming pile of horsie poo, too!