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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    Please tell me you aren't that stupid Jae. Seriously. Please tell me you know he was making a sarcastic comment. PLEASE?
    I don't think so, BTC.
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    • #17
      I see no reason to think it was a joke
      "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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      • #18
        When you guys start calling KingsGambit stupid to his face over this I'll care about you ganging up on me.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
          I see no reason to think it was a joke
          How...? I'm speechless...
          That's what
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          - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
            When you guys start calling KingsGambit stupid to his face over this I'll care about you ganging up on me.
            I didn't call you stupid. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you were just funning me...
            That's what
            - She

            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
              How...? I'm speechless...
              Group Psychology, Bill. If he'd said the same thing while you were still backing Cruz or Carson or something you'd be jumping on him as hard as me or KG are, but now that you've begun to see him as your guy to get into the whitehouse you're going to give him more of a benefit of the doubt.

              That's politics and its hard as hell to recognize in oneself and harder still to break.

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              • #22
                yeah, I don't call people stupid unless their asshattery has shattered the meter.
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                • #23
                  I was already thinking of starting a thread on the many Trump-russia links. Russian investment in Trumps businesses, Trump and Putin complementing each other, Russian hackers in the DNC systems, Trump mostly ignoring the party platform except interfering to ensure America wasn't blocking a Russian takeover of Estonia, wanting to pull out of NATO etc... lots of Trump links to Russia, none of which is highly suspicious in its own right, but they've begun to add up.

                  It's possible that Vlad simply sees Hillary as a war-mongering hawk and Trump as a simpleton and also a noninterventionist and so thinks a Trump presidency will allow Russia to expand militarily in a way that a Clinton presidency won't.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                    How...? I'm speechless...
                    That's who Trump is... he'll do anything for his own advantage with little regard to the consequences. That's always been his modus operandi. I don't see why he should get the benefit of the doubt here... a presidential candidate should in any event know national security isn't a joking batter so I should assume he's being serious.
                    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                      That's who Trump is... he'll do anything for his own advantage with little regard to the consequences. That's always been his modus operandi. I don't see why he should get the benefit of the doubt here... a presidential candidate should in any event know national security isn't a joking batter so I should assume he's being serious.
                      KG, I don't trust Trump further than I can throw him, but even my understanding of law wouldn't put his action in this category.
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                      • #26
                        Obvious sarcastic hyperbole to mock the DNC claim that Russia hacked them

                        Yeah convict Trump on treason over a joke while letting Hillary get away with breaking national security laws and the DNC rigging the nomination

                        That sounds about right

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
                          Group Psychology, Bill. If he'd said the same thing while you were still backing Cruz or Carson or something you'd be jumping on him as hard as me or KG are,
                          I highly doubt that. I've been around long enough to know when someone is using sarcasm, as Trump was doing here. It has nothing to do with who he is currently.

                          but now that you've begun to see him as your guy to get into the whitehouse you're going to give him more of a benefit of the doubt.
                          I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. That's who I am.

                          That's politics and its hard as hell to recognize in oneself and harder still to break.
                          Knowing the context of Trump's tongue in cheek comment helps to shatter that perception.
                          That's what
                          - She

                          Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                          - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                          I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                          - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ke7ejx View Post
                            yeah, I don't call people stupid unless their asshattery has shattered the meter.
                            I told you that "hattery" is not allowed!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                              At most, this absolves him legally.
                              Treason is a legal concept. I don't think you can get to a moral equivalent from what he actually said.

                              I think you can make a case for it being an idiotic thing to say - especially from a presidential candidate. But that doesn't make it treason in any real sense.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                                That's who Trump is... he'll do anything for his own advantage with little regard to the consequences. That's always been his modus operandi. I don't see why he should get the benefit of the doubt here... a presidential candidate should in any event know national security isn't a joking batter so I should assume he's being serious.
                                He's always been a master of sarcasm.
                                That's what
                                - She

                                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                                I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                                - Stephen R. Donaldson

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