Federal Gun Registry Coming?

[Cow Poke]

Silly! You just haven't figured out that you are registered as a driver, unless of course you just don't drive.

You can be "registered" as a driver and still not drive.

Which part od this are you having difficultry with? If you drive, you are on databases..........

No, if you signed up to get a driver's license, you are on a database. Not just because you drive. There are lots of people who drive who are not registered at all.

Hundreds of thousands of accidents happen with guns each year.

you are SUCH a drama queen -- I find stats from 7,000 to 30,000 - which is nowhere NEAR "hundreds of thousands".
The rest of your post, therefore, is ignored. Come back with better stats.

[lilpixieofterror]

Silly! You just haven't figured out that you are registered as a driver, unless of course you just don't drive.
Which part od this are you having difficultry with? If you drive, you are on databases..........

The problem is that you're an idiot that doesn't have a clue what he's talking about? You do not have to have a license to drive on private property. You only need one if you choose to operate one on public property. Do you have a problem understanding that or is your little brain overloading because you can't absorb that simple fact? If that is true (and it is), your entire argument comes crashing down around you. Poor eider, so clueless, but doesn't know when you stop talking.

Hundreds of thousands of accidents happen with guns each year. I am sure that responsible gun users will be insured. Only the idiots don't bother, and so to make 3rd party gun insurance mandatory would be a no-brainer.

They do? Funny how when I actually look at the facts vs your ranting I discover that accidental deaths and injuries, with guns, end up being no where close to 'hundreds of thousands'. You're far more likely to be killed by falling, crashing your car, being poisoned, or chocking than you are being killed accidentally shot. Likewise, gun injuries rate pretty low on the list to. Who cars about those pesky fact things? Elder says it's true, so facts have to be ignored because they don't tote the party line. There's no requirement for 3rd party gun insurance moron because there is no hundreds of thousands of injuries and deaths that results from guns.

This is hard work! If you own and carry a gun, there is a risk that you could, by accident, hurt somebody else! If you should be so unfortunate, and a Court awarded damages against you for the injury caused, any specialist treatment and services, loss of earnings, possible loss of life etc etc, you would not be able to pay for the damages, but if insured......

You mean like how states require you to have a CC license, if you choose to carry a gun in public? Oops, your argument comes falling apart again. Go ahead, show me the actual stats that back up your claim of these hundreds of thousands of injuries and deaths. We both know that you can't show it because you made that claim up, but who needs facts when emotions will do? Again, your chances of being injured or killed, by a gun, remain really low. You have better luck falling and break your leg than you do being accidentally shot.

So, slowly, I'm hoping that you are figuring out that 3rd party gun insurance would be there to protect THIRD PARTIES. Get a friend to explain third-party insurance to you. Without this a wounded person might get awarded a large payout, but if the negligent gun owner-shooter has no money, then the poor wounded innocent person doesn't get all those awards!

And I hope you figure out that you're a moron that has no clue what he's talking about. Show me the actual stats that back up your idiotic ranting. We both know that you made them up on the spot, but who cares what those pesky fact things say? Elder has an opinion and the facts need to be ignored because they disagree with your idiotic rantings.

So take care you don't fall, choke, etc........... and get some 3rd party gun insurance!
People who run businesses, drive cars, own yachts, carry guns etc without 3rd party insurance are a total irresponsible disgrace.
Easy.

You're an idiot.

This isn't getting through........ maybe I could email your President to add it tyio his list of executive actions. 3rd party gun insurance.

And you'll be laughed at like the true moron you are. I showed the facts that you're wrong, don't let them get in the way of your ranting though. Facts are to be ignored when you don't like them and just on an anti gun rant. Have fun being a total and complete moron while the rest of us laugh at you.

[lilpixieofterror]

you are SUCH a drama queen -- I find stats from 7,000 to 30,000 - which is nowhere NEAR "hundreds of thousands".
The rest of your post, therefore, is ignored. Come back with better stats.

You only get 30,000 if you include murder and suicide in the stat. When those are removed, accidental gun death drops. I showed him this already and he ignored it because it didn't work into his beliefs. Which goes to show that facts are not part of his arguments, emotions drive his obsessive ranting.

[eider]

You can be "registered" as a driver and still not drive.

So you are already om databases......... might as well support gun registry, even if you don't take your gun into public?

No, if you signed up to get a driver's license, you are on a database. Not just because you drive. There are lots of people who drive who are not registered at all.

If you drive on public roads, you get a licence, and insurance, and then you'd be a responsible person. Time to think about gun registry, and, of course, a responsible President is thinking about just that.

you are SUCH a drama queen -- I find stats from 7,000 to 30,000 - which is nowhere NEAR "hundreds of thousands".
The rest of your post, therefore, is ignored. Come back with better stats.

When you get worried, you get personal............
Here....... eat some stats!
270 shootings per day? You're in denial.........
sad..........

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ook-post-says/
"Nearly 100,000 people get shot every year. That's 270 people a day and 87 dead."
http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-deaths-a...es-statistics/

[eider]

You only get 30,000 if you include murder and suicide in the stat. When those are removed, accidental gun death drops. I showed him this already and he ignored it because it didn't work into his beliefs. Which goes to show that facts are not part of his arguments, emotions drive his obsessive ranting.

270 shootings per day............
Read the post above this one.

Stop ignoring the stats..........

[Carrikature]

I think some of the confusion here is WHICH database we're talking about. Are you talking about the Hawaii STATE database, or the Federal Rap Back database?

I have cited this before, from the FBI's own website... (bolding mine)

Source: FBI.gov

criminal history reported on individuals holding positions of trust, such as school teachers.

© Copyright Original Source

The Federal Rap Back Database. And yes, ongoing status notifications of criminal history. Nowhere does it say that only criminals are placed in the database. In fact, I've provided information (and found plenty more) that demonstrates the exact opposite. Criminals can be placed on the list in an effort to help track parole violations (among other things). Non-criminals can be placed on the list so that, should commission of a crime take place, the person in a "position of trust" can be dealt with appropriately.



It's not just for criminals. It's just a list of people to check against as part of the normal crime processing procedures. It's a safe bet that I'm on this list, and I know I'm not a criminal. My licensure is based upon my lack of criminal history, and I would have my licenses suspended and/or revoked were I to be convicted of a crime.

The Hawaii database, on the other hand, includes those who register weapons or even apply to own one.

Agreed.

[Carrikature]

who cares what it is called? It is what it does that counts. Tracking non criminals who own guns. That is not the business of government. You are quibbling semantics and ignoring the function. The government never calls something what it is anyway. They always have a clever name for it. Like "rap back" -- yeah that name really tells you what the database is for, right? Oh no, it is not a criminal-tracking watch list at all, it is a "rap back" database!

Your description of the function is demonstrably false. That's the problem. You've little room to complain about the government not "calling it what it is" when you're guilty of the exact same thing.

Even if your description of the function were correct, it's well within the powers of the government. It's certainly not a rights violation as has been repeatedly claimed (without any support, I might add).


ETA:
Let's not forget that complaints against "tracking non criminals who own guns" gets really silly in the face of existing registration requirements. There's nothing new happening here.

[lilpixieofterror]

270 shootings per day............
Read the post above this one.

Already refuted moron. I have already proved that most of those are due to suicides, murders, and criminal activity. Eliminate all of those from your equations and the problem ends up going away because if you haven't noticed yet... criminals don't care about laws and there's several ways to kill yourself being shooting yourself. Stuff you ignore because it refutes your nonsense.

Stop ignoring the stats..........

Irony at it's finest. You're the one ignoring stats that you disagree with. The only way you get the numbers you want is if you include suicide, murder, and criminal activity. Accidental death and injury, due to firearms, is very low once you remove those three things. If you haven't noticed yet, criminals don't care about laws and there's dozens of ways of killing yourself. Therefore, your entire rant goes down the drain. Poor stupid anti gun nut, so desperate to be right that he must flat ignore those pesky facts that prove his rants as wrong.

[Carrikature]

This would be relevant if you could actually link it to what's happening.

[lilpixieofterror]

So you are already om databases......... might as well support gun registry, even if you don't take your gun into public?


If you drive on public roads, you get a licence, and insurance, and then you'd be a responsible person. Time to think about gun registry, and, of course, a responsible President is thinking about just that.


When you get worried, you get personal............
Here....... eat some stats!
270 shootings per day? You're in denial.........
sad..........

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ook-post-says/
"Nearly 100,000 people get shot every year. That's 270 people a day and 87 dead."
http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-deaths-a...es-statistics/

Too bad most of those injuries and deaths are due to suicide and criminal activity. Remove those from your idiotic rants and your argument ends up disappearing into a puff of smoke. Unless of course, you seriously think criminals care about laws and suicidal people do either (like criminals are going to register their guns or carry insurance or that insurance companies would seriously insure them if they tried to).Too bad your sources of information are other idiots, like you, that seriously think that laws will magically prevent suicides and criminals from getting guns. If you again think that, you're an even bigger idiot than any of us thought and should only be answered to entertain ourselves at your expense. Does it hurt being as stupid as you are?

[Cow Poke]

The Federal Rap Back Database. And yes, ongoing status notifications of criminal history. Nowhere does it say that only criminals are placed in the database.

OK, I give up. I think you dug yourself a hole and you just keep digging. Please feel free to blog on.

[Cow Poke]

So you are already om databases.........

I'm on my Church's database... therefore, I should be on the no fly list, too? You're really goofy.

might as well support gun registry, even if you don't take your gun into public?

If you drive on public roads, you get a licence, and insurance,

No. Not necessarily. You're really not any good with fact and logic --- there are THOUSANDS of people driving every day without properly registered or insured vehicles.

When you get worried, you get personal............

No, just when I find somebody who makes JimL look intelligent.

[eider]

I'm on my Church's database... therefore, I should be on the no fly list, too? You're really goofy.

You'll also be licensed to drive, insured to drive and your on-road motors will be licensed to you. You've already mentioned driving places, I think?
......... which means that you are simply setting up interference in your style of debating...... and you insult folks.

No. Not necessarily. You're really not any good with fact and logic --- there are THOUSANDS of people driving every day without properly registered or insured vehicles.

...which means that there are loads of folks breaking the laws. Which is no reason for dumping driving licences, car registrations or insurance.
When does your debating get stronger, because at tghis time you're just no challenge at all.

No, just when I find somebody who makes JimL look intelligent.

More insults.........
Your representing more than yourself because you have told all the world that you are a Pastor. Surely you have responsibilities to your faith, don't you?

It's time to ask you, what denomination, or church-type, do you belong to?
I honestly cannot believe that you are a priest...... can't believe it.....

[Cow Poke]

You'll also be licensed to drive, insured to drive and your on-road motors will be licensed to you. You've already mentioned driving places, I think?
......... which means that you are simply setting up interference in your style of debating...... and you insult folks.


...which means that there are loads of folks breaking the laws. Which is no reason for dumping driving licences, car registrations or insurance.
When does your debating get stronger, because at tghis time you're just no challenge at all.


More insults.........
Your [Inserted by CP -- It's YOU'RE!!!!!! ] representing more than yourself because you have told all the world that you are a Pastor. Surely you have responsibilities to your faith, don't you?

It's time to ask you, what denomination, or church-type, do you belong to?
I honestly cannot believe that you are a priest......

That's OK, cause I'm not.

can't believe it.....

I think you get goofier by the post. Not worth my time. And I really don't care what you can't believe.