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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostI am. It's on her Facebook page linked to her "transition story" on Youtube.
That's called stupid B.S. She is a woman whose brain is wrongly telling her that she is a man. She is a woman in every way that biologically matters.
That's stupid. People can change their looks quite easily. Genetics... not so much.Blog: Atheism and the City
If your whole worldview rests on a particular claim being true, you damn well better have evidence for it. You should have tons of evidence.
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Originally posted by The Thinker View PostSo we should force her into a woman's bathroom so that women think a man is in and will call the police and Buck and trans-men like her will have to deal with harassment and creating many more unnecessary police incidents? And we will have to get used to people who look like men going into the women's restroom, making it easier for actual men to do so?
It should be based on looks plus gender identity.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostMany stores have private security already, so they could be leveraged in cases where doubt is in play. It's not like there are millions of transgenders in the country...
No it should not. It should be based on biology - something that can't be faked. Looks can be altered and "gender identity" can be feigned. Genetics can't.Blog: Atheism and the City
If your whole worldview rests on a particular claim being true, you damn well better have evidence for it. You should have tons of evidence.
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Originally posted by The Thinker View PostAnd how do you deal with doubt?
Will there be a security guard in front of every bathroom?
What if a trans-person sues the company for harassment if they don't believe them?
How are you going to check that? Are you going to have a genital inspection for certain people before they enter the bathroom?
What if trans-people are assaulted in the bathroom if they are forced to use their birth sex?
Wouldn't that be a factor into what we do?That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Adam View PostTassman once again reveals his lack of knowledge of U. S. religious history. He knows nothing of Roger Williams and Baptists. Nor Quakers!
AS for pure politics, TAssman knows nothing either, as the fundamental government structure until the Civli War was the states, several of which had established churches, both North and South.
I'm tired of you, T. Read a history book and start over. (I have a Master's in History.)
Once again, U.S. Supreme Court Decisions on Separation of Church and State
http://infidels.org/library/modern/c...decisions.html
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostTo the rest of the medical community, yes. Especially when it comes to judgment calls, like what is "normal" for a human being.Nope.So, not on scientific reasons then? Are you saying the mental health organizations of the world used an OPINION to classify something?
But "Normal" is not a scientific term. It is a value judgment. If "normal" means that it occurs with a reasonable frequency, the Down's Syndrome and Kleinfelter's Syndrome are "normal forms of human experience", as is schizophrenia, manic-depressive disorders, and any other thing that occurs more than ultra-rare. So, I'll give you a shot... what makes something scientifically "normal" for human beings?For cultural reasons. Nothing more, nothing less.
It's been shown more than I can count. In 1963, Greg Swank wrote "The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals, and #39 is fitting here:
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
The entire article is rather prophetic. I marvel at his foresight and how we have checked off over 1/2 of them as a country.
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worldwide
Homosexuality was regarded by the culture of the day to be abnormal behaviour and this was reflected in psychology. But decades of subsequent research and clinical experience has proved otherwise.
It was removed for purely cultural reasons. The word "normal" was redefined to include aberrant expressions of sexuality.
They redefined what "normal" means. With a very specific agenda, as seen here:
The decoupling of what is normal behavior in a certain circumstance or environment can not be done because the majority of practitioners of soft sciences don't like the unintentional societal implications that "abnormal = bad". As Maisel tries to state:
So, as he admits, things become "normal" because of how society is biased and the "confusion" that bias creates.
It's unwise to disagree with the experts in the field without good reason.
This is a good thing.
Social attitudes evolve and must be taken into account, e.g. blacks now have civil rights, women are emancipated and homosexuality is no longer criminalised.
And over half have come to pass.
And, in case you haven't noticed, Communism is no longer a threat...the Cold War has endedThat's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYes Adam, we all know that many of the states ignored the the provisos of the Constitution and First Amendment, and many still attempt to do so today, but virtually every-time these blatant attempts to bypass the Constitution are hauled before the Supreme Court they are ruled to be unconstitutional. It's no good bleating about "liberal Courts". The demonstrable fact is that the Constitution allows for no other possible interpretation.Near the Peoples' Republic of Davis, south of the State of Jefferson (Suspended between Left and Right)
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostA government issued Identification card, whether a driver's license, military ID, or other form.
Of course not. Just like there isn't a guard at every exit searching people for stolen merchandise. It's a matter of availability. Just have them there to answer the call if it comes in.
It should not be legal to change your gender on official documentation, so that objection would go out the window.
SOMEONE is always going to have that "what if".
Of course it is. We consider all of the factors when making decisions like this.Blog: Atheism and the City
If your whole worldview rests on a particular claim being true, you damn well better have evidence for it. You should have tons of evidence.
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Originally posted by The Thinker View PostNot everyone has one.
What if someone does have ID or refuses to show it?
But you're OK with that, it seems. It has happened, many times.
OK, good. I'm considering that factor of trans-people being assaulted in their birth gender bathroom
and the inconvenience they will have to suffer if forced to use that bathroom which could involve proving their gender or dealing with police harassment.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Adam View PostOnce again, you refuse to acknowledge that the U. S. has a FEDERAL system, under which until the 14h Amendment (and LATER SCOTUS rulings interpreting same) the Constitution did not apply to the States, each of which was perfectly entitled to (and some did so) established churches. By Liberal rulings the States can no longer do that (and none wanted to, so I guess the matter is still inconclusive).
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That's so bad a post that it should be rescinded.
Maybe other than Starlight, we should not allow any foreigners to post about U. S. politics.Near the Peoples' Republic of Davis, south of the State of Jefferson (Suspended between Left and Right)
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bolt their food from being legitimate puppies.
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It was removed for purely cultural reasons. The word "normal" was redefined to include aberrant expressions of sexuality.They redefined what "normal" means. With a very specific agenda, as seen here: <snipped>
So, as he admits, things become "normal" because of how society is biased and the "confusion" that bias creates.The experts even admit they have no "universal standard" for what is abnormal. So, how can I disagree with them when they have no real standard by which to disagree with me?But it is unscientific. As I said earlier in this thread.
We are not talking about criminal behavior. We are talking about mental deviances.And over half have come to pass.
But it's ugly inbred sister, Socialism, is alive and kicking.
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