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Originally posted by JimL View PostReally! I didn't realize that Chinese education camps taught people to think for themselves.
At the very least you're proposing something horrible evil, condemned by both religious people and feminists.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostAt the very least you're proposing something horrible evil, condemned by both religious people and feminists.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostChinese education camps are infamous for actually taking children from believing parents, and teaching them God does not exist. You can try to pick other things that aren't equal with your proposal and theirs, but if what you propose is the government taking children from believing parents, then you're proposing education camps.
At the very least you're proposing something horrible evil, condemned by both religious people and feminists.
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Originally posted by JimLWhat is horribly evil about teaching children to think and make decisions for themselves?
You teach your kids your beliefs and I teach my kids mine. But you call my way evil and your way good. I say it's the other way around.
So here we are.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWhat is horribly evil about teaching children to think and make decisions for themselves?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostGood thing I never proposed that then.
What is horribly evil about teaching children to think and make decisions for themselves?
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWhat is horribly evil about teaching children to think and make decisions for themselves?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's really kind of a goofy question, Jimmy, because there has to be a framework. If your child picked up a bottle of ammonia and started to drink it, would you just sit back and say, "ya know, children need to make decisions for themselves...." Or would you quickly and decisively intervene?
It's NOT just "let them do whatever they want", which is what your ammonia example would be.I'm not here anymore.
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Originally posted by Carrikature View PostPart of teaching children to think and make decisions for themselves is giving them that framework.
I'm responding to you specifically, but there are several people in this thread that seem oblivious of that particular aspect.
It's NOT just "let them do whatever they want", which is what your ammonia example would be.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View Post... While we do need to pass on certain skills and facts about the world...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's really kind of a goofy question, Jimmy, because there has to be a framework. If your child picked up a bottle of ammonia and started to drink it, would you just sit back and say, "ya know, children need to make decisions for themselves...." Or would you quickly and decisively intervene?
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostIn an enlightened secular society the "framework" must be a secular one, not a religion-based one.
There can be no way to resolve conflicts about moral issues when members of competing denominations and religions hold absolute beliefs which are mutually exclusive.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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