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  • #91
    JordanRiver,

    You might want you open your eyes to the obvious, although that's difficult to for a Fundy to do without arc-welder strength sunglasses.

    Take a look-see at the Jedburgh formation, and tell me how that fits in with your 6/10 Ka Earth history.

    Noah's Fludde must've pretty amazing.

    Let ICR and Ken Ham know about your musings.

    Thanks!

    K54

    appalachian.jpg

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
      Afraid of a hypothetical? Again.
      http://www.opposingviews.com/i/relig...e-adam-and-eve

      Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
      for you?

      probably no where.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
        what argument did you want?

        Was there something I was supposed to 'prove' to you?
        Yep, you've just confirmed my post: you are absolutely clueless when it comes to posit a solid argument. I pity your God who is dependent on followers like you who are lost but believe in their delusions that they can defend their helpless god. This is truely a Greek tragedy of collosal proportion.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by little_monkey View Post
          I pity your God who is dependent on followers like you who are lost but believe in their delusions that they can defend their helpless god. This is truely a Greek tragedy of collosal proportion.
          shut up, stupid.
          I'm guessing you don't get out of the basement much, because you don't know what's going on in the World.

          Your side has to kiss our side's butt, not the other way around, for political POWER.

          If an atheist wants power in the most powerful nation on Earth, he/she has to at least pretend to be a believer.

          "...Not believing in God is political poison, at least if you express that belief openly. While the most severe mistreatment of atheists may take place in fundamentalist nations, political discrimination is pervasive across the U.S. Despite polling that has shown nonbelievers making up an increasingly large part of the country, there isn't a single admitted atheist in Congress right now, and by most counts, there's only one in all of the state legislatures across the nation..."
          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_4413593.html
          (the very secular huffington post)


          "...It’s well known that there aren’t many open atheists in Congress or in state government, and that atheists aren’t held in high esteem by potential voters. Some question our dedication to what they view as a “Christian nation” while others feel that they can’t relate to a candidate who doesn’t share the same faith as they do.

          Whatever the reason, public distrust isn’t the only means by which atheists are discouraged for running from office. In fact, running for a spot in state legislatures as an atheist is outright illegal in some states. Obviously, these laws are trumped by the “No Religious Test Clause” of the United States Constitution, which is found in Article VI, paragraph 3, and states that....."

          http://americanhumanist.org/HNN/deta...ohibit-godless

          (yeah, that's the "The AHA strives to bring about a progressive society where being "good without a god" is an accepted way to live life." American Humanist Association)

          when Christianity dominated the UK, the sun never sat on that empire.

          and chances are, when , as you call them, "...followers like you who are lost but believe in their delusions..." lose power in the West, you'll probably get blown up by some other group of followers who are lost in their delusions from the Middle East region of the World.

          ....I think you are the one who needs to get a clue.
          To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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          • #95
            Originally posted by klaus54 View Post
            Noah's Fludde must've pretty amazing.
            Noah's Flood: Powerful enough to carve out the Grand Canyon and the Jedburgh formation, but too weak to destroy the Great Pyramid of Giza.
            "[Mathematics] is the revealer of every genuine truth, for it knows every hidden secret, and bears the key to every subtlety of letters; whoever, then, has the effrontery to pursue physics while neglecting mathematics should know from the start he will never make his entry through the portals of wisdom."
            --Thomas Bradwardine, De Continuo (c. 1325)

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            • #96
              Originally posted by jordanriver View Post



              Your side has to kiss our side's butt, not the other way around, for political POWER.

              Anyone can pretend to believe and get into the club. Ask Karl Rowe. You people are easily fooled.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                ....I think you are the one who needs to get a clue.
                And this from someone who doesn't know what "coherent" means.

                But I agree that in the country of the blind, the one-eyed man will be beaten to death.

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                • #98
                  gnats

                  ...flick flick...
                  To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by jordanriver View Post

                    and chances are, when , as you call them, "...followers like you who are lost but believe in their delusions..." lose power in the West, you'll probably get blown up by some other group of followers who are lost in their delusions from the Middle East region of the World.

                    ....I think you are the one who needs to get a clue.
                    Hardly, cowards like LW will probably convert to Islam to save their fat butts...
                    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                    • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                      So "God of the Bible" is a hypothetical like The Flying Spaghetti Monster? Why would one be “afraid” of notions unsupported by substantive evidence?
                      So the answer is still yes.
                      Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                      • Originally posted by seer View Post
                        Hardly, cowards like LW will probably convert to Islam to save their fat butts...
                        Who is LW?
                        Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                        • Originally posted by phank View Post
                          And this from someone who doesn't know what "coherent" means.

                          .
                          phank, you requested an answer for a 'why' category question.

                          what did you want, a "coherent" guess ?
                          To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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                          • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                            phank, you requested an answer for a 'why' category question.

                            what did you want, a "coherent" guess ?
                            Well, insofar as any statements concerning gods are guesses, I suppose that's unavoidable. But your guesses are free to take the form of a self-consistent model. Perhaps you might argue that the god YOU imagine is so vast that the scope of the universe is no impediment to His concern for every molecule in it. Or perhaps you could argue that the primitive tribesmen of 2000 years ago had no clue about the nature of their universe, and their god did not see fit to give them one.

                            Approaches like that give me a clearer idea about the posture you take toward such matters, and the sort of god you worship.

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                            • Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                              So the answer is still yes.
                              http://www.npr.org/2011/08/09/138957...f-adam-and-eve

                              http://www.newrepublic.com/article/1...ical-existence


                              Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                              for you?

                              probably no where.
                              So God is a fixed delusion for some and non-existent for others.

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                              • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post

                                Your side has to kiss our side's butt, not the other way around, for political POWER.

                                If an atheist wants power in the most powerful nation on Earth, he/she has to at least pretend to be a believer.
                                Many countries in the developed world flourish without having to resort to the sort of hypocrisy you're advocating - including my country, Australia, where numerous members of parliament have publicly declared their non-belief - including one of the most popular and successful prime-ministers ever, namely Bob Hawke. Many of us believe that honesty is preferable to lying about one's beliefs - where does such dishonesty stop?

                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hawke
                                Last edited by Tassman; 11-06-2014, 11:19 PM.

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