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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostScientific advances have refined the age of the universe with new evidence from Hubble.
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Originally posted by ReformedApologist View PostIt's interesting, those who hold to a radical view scientism always talk about how Science is objective in its research, and yet they can come up with different numbers that contradict previous ideas. Science used to say the universe was 14 Billion years old, and now new evidence has come to light that this may not be the case. But of course science is never neutral, rather it is interpreted by the presuppositions of the scientist. So this news never surprises me.
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Originally posted by ReformedApologist View PostIt's interesting, those who hold to a radical view scientism always talk about how Science is objective in its research, and yet they can come up with different numbers that contradict previous ideas. Science used to say the universe was 14 Billion years old, and now new evidence has come to light that this may not be the case. But of course science is never neutral, rather it is interpreted by the presuppositions of the scientist. So this news never surprises me.
Although some see this as a supposed weakness, it is in fact one of science's greatest strengths. While individual scientists may be dogmatic, science or the facts aren't.
1. Still, there are somethings that we have so much evidence for (like the earth is larger than the moon for instance) that it is truly inconceivable that something will come along overturning the proverbial apple cart.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostScientism?
1. as opposed to methodological naturalism which is an entirely different thingLast edited by rogue06; 04-28-2019, 11:52 AM.
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"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThere are those who think that science can answer virtually any question. They are beholden to philosophical or ontological naturalism[1]. While science is extremely good at answering questions dealing with "how" it often fails miserably at answering the questions dealing with why. Those questions are best answered by theologians and philosophers.
1. as opposed to methodological naturalism which is an entirely different thing
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThere are those who think that science can answer virtually any question. They are beholden to philosophical or ontological naturalism[1]. While science is extremely good at answering questions dealing with "how" it often fails miserably at answering the questions dealing with why. Those questions are best answered by theologians and philosophers.
1. as opposed to methodological naturalism which is an entirely different thing
I will acknowledge that even the most extreme atheists and materialists get their science right. The Reformed Apologist obviously does not.
Again . . . Scientism
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThat is most definitely NOT the context of the post by the Reformed Apologist.
Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostI will acknowledge that even the most extreme atheists and materialists get their science right. The Reformed Apologist obviously does not.
Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostAgain . . . Scientism
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI believe that RA can speak for himself.
Not when they think that is all that there is.
And yet directly above your post we see an example of it.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
No it is not
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAn expression that science can answer virtually any question and those it can't are likely nonexistent or aren't real.
The Materialist or Ontological Naturalist view is simply that there is no evidence beyond science for a reason to believe in God(s) nor worlds beyond our physical existence. They do not ry to answer these questions where there is no objective verifiable evidence.Last edited by shunyadragon; 04-28-2019, 05:34 PM.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostHis post was addressed to me, if there is a communication problem he heens to clarify it.
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAnd yet directly above your post we see an example of it.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostHis post was addressed to me, if there is a communication problem he heens to clarify it.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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