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Originally posted by lee_merrill View Post
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostAbout 1 per gene per 100 million years! In eukaryotes...
Factoring in the current human population and number of genes, with an approximated generation time of 25 years, gives an estimated rate of gene duplication mutations in humans of about seventy thousand every year. That's almost enough to duplicate every gene three times.
That differs from Dory's suggested commonality by 13 orders of magnitude.Last edited by Roy; 04-15-2019, 04:57 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostDid you realize that there are typically multiple duplications in every human that weren't present in either parent? Now imagine how common duplicated genes are in something like E. coli.What do you base your "unlikely" on?
Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Roy View PostChecking Dory's source exposes that this is the fixation rate, not the occurrence rate. It's also, as he noted, the per gene rate, not the rate for the entire genome.
Factoring in the current human population and number of genes, with an approximated generation time of 25 years, gives an estimated rate of gene duplication mutations in humans of about seventy thousand every year. That's almost enough to duplicate every gene three times.
That differs from Dory's suggested commonality by 13 orders of magnitude.
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostWhich would make the human genome project impossible. But I believe the 1 in 100 million years is a population fixation rate per gene.
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Lee
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostYou may believe this, but . . . not supported by a legitimate scientific reference not quoted out of context, which is your modus oporandi.
"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostChecking Dory's source exposes that this is the fixation rate, not the occurrence rate. It's also, as he noted, the per gene rate, not the rate for the entire genome.
Factoring in the current human population and number of genes, with an approximated generation time of 25 years, gives an estimated rate of gene duplication mutations in humans of about seventy thousand every year. That's almost enough to duplicate every gene three times.
That differs from Dory's suggested commonality by 13 orders of magnitude.
Your objection is akin to claiming it's impossible to know how many fingers humans have because some people are amputees.But I believe the 1 in 100 million years is a population fixation rate per gene.
Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostHow have I misquoted the reference?Last edited by Roy; 04-16-2019, 05:09 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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In the book Darwin Devolves, Behe mentions work by Thornton that states that evolution doesn't seem to have a reverse:
Behe writes:
Blessings,
LeeLast edited by lee_merrill; 04-20-2019, 09:27 PM."What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostIn the book Darwin Devolves, Behe mentions work by Thornton that states that evolution doesn't seem to have a reverse:
Behe writes:
Blessings,
Lee
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostIn the book Darwin Devolves, Behe mentions work by Thornton that states that evolution doesn't seem to have a reverse:
So what?Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostIn the book Darwin Devolves, Behe mentions work by Thornton that states that evolution doesn't seem to have a reverse:
Behe writes:
Blessings,
Lee
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Originally posted by Roy View PostRight. It's difficult to reverse a whole series of adaptive or neutral changes.
So what?Originally posted by shunyadragonHiw is this meaningful to the discussion?
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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