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Originally posted by HMS_Beagle View PostI did. Still no one ever made the silly strawman argument you keep claiming. Why you keep repeating your lie is the real mystery.Last edited by Sparko; 01-15-2019, 09:25 AM.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI quoted him making that argument. Twice. I substantiated my claims, now substantiate your accusation of me being a liar.
I know you're not dumb enough to confuse the two idea so that leaves willful misrepresentation on your part. There, it's substantiated.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI am living in the world where Tassman is arguing I should believe in Global Warming simply because "97% of climate scientists" do.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI quoted him making that argument. Twice. I substantiated my claims, now substantiate your accusation of me being a liar.
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Originally posted by HMS_Beagle View PostNo you didn't because he never made that argument. He merely pointed out that the evidence has convinced the large majority of the world's climatologists anthropogenic climate change is real and is a threat. That is NOT the same as saying the evidence is correct because the scientists accept it as you keep falsely claiming.
I know you're not dumb enough to confuse the two idea so that leaves willful misrepresentation on your part. There, it's substantiated.
And I never claimed he said, "the evidence is correct because the scientists accept it" - I said he claimed I should accept AGW merely because most scientist do, without any mention of any actual evidence.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostNever have I said that scientific consensus is reason enough to believe in global warming on its own. It's the evidence that matters, not necessarily the consensus among scientists. But the fact that there is a large scientific consensus supporting global warming is good reason to take it very seriously. Your own inexplicable reluctance to accept the factual evidence merely reflects your own jaundiced view of science and scientific methodology.
Originally posted by Tassman View PostSo, what about the ninety-seven percent of climate scientists, who agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide, which have issued public statements endorsing this position.Originally posted by Tassman View Post97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYou said:
Clearly arguing that AGW is true because 97% of scientists believe it. The only evidence you supplied was not for climate change but for the fact that 97% of scientists agree.
I'm still waiting for you to justify your indifference to the highly probable facts of global warming when, if true, the consequences will be catastrophic for the planet. Why is this?Last edited by Tassman; 01-16-2019, 11:01 PM.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYou said:
Clearly arguing that AGW is true because 97% of scientists believe it. The only evidence you supplied was not for climate change but for the fact that 97% of scientists agree.Last edited by HMS_Beagle; 01-16-2019, 11:50 PM.
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Meanwhile on the bad news side
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Antarctica losing six times more ice mass annually now than 40 years ago
Antarctica experienced a sixfold increase in yearly ice mass loss between 1979 and 2017, according to a new study. Glaciologists additionally found that the accelerated melting caused global sea levels to rise more than half an inch during that time.
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Originally posted by HMS_Beagle View PostMeanwhile on the bad news side
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Still that scientifically illiterate moron in the WH and his idiotic mouth-breather fans think anthropogenic climate change is a Chinese hoax.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostNever have I said that scientific consensus is reason enough to believe in global warming on its own. You have dishonestly cherry-picked my argument, which has been amply supported by links detailing the evidence of global warming, to pursue your own anti-science agenda. Beagle, Roy and shunya have been right to call you out on your seemingly deliberate misrepresentation of my argument.
I'm still waiting for you to justify your indifference to the highly probable facts of global warming when, if true, the consequences will be catastrophic for the planet. Why is this?
Originally posted by Tassman View PostSo, what about the ninety-seven percent of climate scientists, who agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide, which have issued public statements endorsing this position.Originally posted by Tassman View Post97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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