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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostWhereas the correct argument is "lookie at all the scientists who have concluded it's true - why do you think you're smarter than all of them?"
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostNo the correct argument is Look at the evidence that caused the scientists to believe it is true so you will believe it too. Them believing has nothing to do with causing it to be true or false. They could all be wrong. It has happened before."Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."
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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostIn a hypothetical world where people would look at all the evidence with an open mind, i'd agree. But we live in a real world where people have access to all the evidence, don't look at it, and loudly proclaim things that are simply false. Which is the world where my question is appropriate.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostNo the correct argument is Look at the evidence that caused the scientists to believe it is true so you will believe it too. Them believing has nothing to do with causing it to be true or false. They could all be wrong. It has happened before.
This thread is classic in misrepresenting the evidence for Global Warming. Science over time has demonstrating correcting errors and misinterpretation of all scientific disciplines research including those involved with Global Warming.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI am living in the world where Tassman is arguing I should believe in Global Warming simply because "97% of climate scientists" do."Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI am living in the world where Tassman is arguing I should believe in Global Warming simply because "97% of climate scientists" do.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThat was never my position and the fact you need resort to such Trumpian-level distortion of the facts is indicative of your unsustainably weak argument.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostNo the correct argument is Look at the evidence that caused the scientists to believe it is true so you will believe it too. Them believing has nothing to do with causing it to be true or false. They could all be wrong. It has happened before.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe only one being Trumpian is you, who just keep repeating the same lie despite me actually posting quotes of you doing exactly what I said. How does it feel to be just like Trump?
STILL waiting for you to explain why you are so skeptical of global warming given that if true, as is probable, the consequences for the planet and our families will be disastrous? Why are you so unconcerned?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI am living in the world where Tassman is arguing I should believe in Global Warming simply because "97% of climate scientists" do.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThis is an outrageous misrepresentation. Nowhere have I argued that the only reason to believe in global warming is because the majority of scientists accept the evidence of global warming. The scientists present the evidence, to which I have repeatedly linked, and you have at no point argued why the evidence may be incorrect other than your fatuous, anti-science mantra: "scientists sometimes get it wrong". You know, like all the requisite scientific knowledge to get a man to the moon etc...or are you referring to Evolution?.
STILL waiting for you to explain why you are so skeptical of global warming given that if true, as is probable, the consequences for the planet and our families will be disastrous? Why are you so unconcerned?
I never said "only" - I was merely arguing against your repeated claims that the "consensus" was reason enough to believe in global warming. And as long as you keep trying to repeat the lie that you didn't make that argument or that you supplemented your argument with links to studies, I will continue to repeat your own words against you:
Originally posted by Tassman View PostSo, what about the ninety-seven percent of climate scientists, who agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide, which have issued public statements endorsing this position.Originally posted by Tassman View Post97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postsee above.
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Last edited by Littlejoe; 01-16-2019, 04:52 PM.
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Originally posted by HMS_Beagle View PostI did. Still no one ever made the silly strawman argument you keep claiming. Why you keep repeating your lie is the real mystery.
As you note, I have never claimed that mere "consensus" was reason enough to believe in global warming...although it is a strong reinforcement of the available evidence.
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