Bill Nye The Idiot Guy

[Jedidiah]

Sure, you said it right here.

Honesty seems to be a problem for you. I never wrote that ANY sexual practices are moral. I clearly said "I believe that sex within marriage is moral." When you asked if that included all practices and I did not give you an answer.

[HMS_Beagle]

so now being honest is another condition? you keep moving those goal posts. who said they were lying? they might genuinely believe drinking draino won't hurt them. Or they tell the other person the risks and convince them to drink it anyway.

so why is lying to your spouse now immoral? Is that a rule? Is lying intrinsically immoral? why?

why is harming someone immoral only if they don't agree? why isn't it immoral even if they do agree?

LOL! Typical Sparko, talks himself into a corner then starts squirting squid ink and dodging questions.

Here are the last batch of questions you cowardly ducked:

How did you determine how much risk there needs to be to be considered immoral? Your reasoning seems to be "if it can cause harm even if the person taking the risk is aware then it's immoral" Oral sex slightly increases the chances of mouth cancer. Is oral sex immoral?

Hang gliding is an unnecessary risk. Is hang gliding immoral?

How do you determine what is "unnecessary"?

When you find the courage to answer we can continue the conversation.

[HMS_Beagle]

Honesty seems to be a problem for you. I never wrote that ANY sexual practices are moral. I clearly said "I believe that sex within marriage is moral." When you asked if that included all practices and I did not give you an answer.

Honesty seems to be a bigger problem for you. You said sex within marriage was moral. Multiple people asked you to clarify any conditions and you had several chances to do so but ducked out every time.

Since you refuse to clarify or offer corrections people are perfectly justified in assuming "sex" means the standard definition of all different variations of sex. That means you must think anal sex between a married couple is moral.

[Starlight]

Yes I think it is immoral because you are taking an unnecessary risk with the life of someone you claim to love.

Not sure if you've spotted this, but people are laughing at you because of your imaginary ideas about the dangers of anal sex. No, it can't be lethal. Get that through your thick skull. Your statements are totally false and absurd (as per usual).

[KingsGambit]

Some Christians appeal to natural law theory that it isn't perfectly natural to say that it is sinful. I think those arguments prove too much (one example I've used before is that you could use it to argue that baseball is sinful because the arm isn't designed to throw overhand at a high speed). However, anal sex does carry high risks and is frankly violent. I don't see what is loving about it within a marriage.

[HMS_Beagle]

Some Christians appeal to natural law theory that it isn't perfectly natural to say that it is sinful. I think those arguments prove too much (one example I've used before is that you could use it to argue that baseball is sinful because the arm isn't designed to throw overhand at a high speed). However, anal sex does carry high risks and is frankly violent. I don't see what is loving about it within a marriage.

It's just one more way couples have of addressing boredom in the bedroom issues, as well as removing 100% the risk of pregnancy. It can be as loving, as safe, and as non-violent as the couples decide to make it. I looked up the stats - in a 2013 study 37.5% of married couples in the U.S. have tried anal intercourse. According to the 2016 census there are over 60 million married couples in the U.S. which means there are at least 20 million "immoral" married couples in this country alone.

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[Teallaura]

Even the liberals are mocking Bill Nye and his new show.

If you want to see the quality of what the show is about, go to youtube and search for the "bill nye my sex junk"

warning: it's disgusting as well as ridiculous.

PS, Seer, your clickbait titles are slipping. You should have named this: The end is Nye.

*emphasis mine

[seer]

When you find the courage to answer we can continue the conversation.

Like you never answered my question. Why is secular law more correct or valid than religious law?

[HMS_Beagle]

Like you never answered my question. Why is secular law more correct or valid than religious law?

I answered that question at least three times. You ignored the answer. Your whining is not my problem.

[Sea of red]

so if a man talks his wife into consenting to be strangled while he has sex with her, and she dies or ends up with brain damage, is he an immoral criminal?

She was a consenting ADULT.

Case closed.

[Sea of red]

I think anal sex is dangerous and should not be done by anyone. It is unclean, can lead to ruptures and internal bleeding. If a hetero couple does it and the woman dies of hemorrhaging the husband should be prosecuted for manslaughter.

So you think incest is not moral? wow.

do you at least admit most societies have believed it to be immoral?

Sparko, the text you wrote in bold is wow beyond wow.

I can't believe that someone that harps on so much about small government, personal responsibility, and individual freedom can actually hold such a belief. Many women find anal sex pleasurable, and there's nothing wrong with practicing it when one is safe -- as all kinds of sex requires. Accidents can happen in all kinds of sex, including straight up vaginal intercourse, and the idea of prosecuting people for them is just chilling.

[Starlight]

However, anal sex does carry high risks and is frankly violent. I don't see what is loving about it within a marriage.

~Sigh~ Not you too. Seriously? This thread is turning into "Christians take turns saying stupid things to repeatedly demonstrate how little they know about sex".

And what is 'high risks' even supposed to mean in a post where you note that playing baseball carries risks? Are we supposed to have a list of possible sex acts that range in risk from french kissing right up to strangulation and beyond and draw a line over what counts as 'high risk'? And I would have said anal sex with a condom is far lower risk than unprotected vaginal or oral sex, because both those put one at non-negligible risk of STDs... as far as risky sex acts go, protected anal sex is just not up there. But then, you apparently think anal sex is 'violent' (!?!) so you're not really dealing with reality at all here.

[Starlight]

Sparko, the text you wrote in bold is wow beyond wow.

Yep. I couldn't not post it in screwballs.

Many women find anal sex pleasurable

It's worth noting, since various people in this thread have demonstrated an almost complete lack of understanding of the basics... that there is a biological difference between men and women that is relevant, namely that men have a prostate and find stimulation of it highly pleasurable. Probably this is by evolutionary design to encourage pro-social bonding via anal sex among male mammals. So even for couples where the woman finds she doesn't enjoy receiving anal sex, the man will almost certainly appreciate a finger, tongue, or sex toy being used in the region on himself.

[seer]

I answered that question at least three times. You ignored the answer. Your whining is not my problem.

That is false Beagle, what you said was that we are not a Theocracy. That is not an answer. So I will ask again, why are secular laws more valid of correct than religious laws? Look at it this way; you have a law against murder based on religious considerations, you have a law against murder based on secular considerations - why is the secular law more valid or correct?

[Sparko]

Not sure if you've spotted this, but people are laughing at you because of your imaginary ideas about the dangers of anal sex. No, it can't be lethal. Get that through your thick skull. Your statements are totally false and absurd (as per usual).

yeah it can. I have a friend who is gay. He ended up in the hospital because of bleeding in his anus because of anal sex. He subsequently got an infection and ended up in the hospital for several weeks. He almost died. So yeah you can die from it.