Bill Nye The Idiot Guy

[seer]

You guys apologize to LGBT people for being hurting them with your sociopathic views over the last several decades, you recognize their human rights, and you resolve not to do evil toward your fellow humans in the future. Hopefully one day they will eventually find it within themselves to forgive you for the horrific wrongs you've done them.

Hey it is not my fault that they are sexual deviants

If you're feeling religious you can also pray to your imaginary god for forgiveness for your many sins towards LGBT people, and ask him not to punish you in the afterlife for all the horrible things you've done to this group of people.

Wait, how can an imaginary god punish anyone - never mind...

[Jedidiah]

Ummm, the reason we talk about homosexuality being genetic is because Christians constantly talk about how being homosexual or bisexual is some sort of a choice, when we have every reason to think it is genetic. I haven't seen anyone argue that because it is natural that its therefor moral, but what they've actually argued is that because it is natural it must be genetic and therefor, not a choice we make. No different than your preferences for hair color on women.

Seems like conservatives are always moving the damn goal post.

What ever causes homosexuality the behavior is still a choice. Christians see such behavior as sin, just as heterosexual behavior outside marriage is sin. We seem to have lost the battle against accepting loose sexual behavior for the time being, but the pendulum swings so that may change. We may have lost the battle against accepting normalization of homosexual behavior for the time being as well . . .

[seer]

Ummm, the reason we talk about homosexuality being genetic is because Christians constantly talk about how being homosexual or bisexual is some sort of a choice, when we have every reason to think it is genetic. I haven't seen anyone argue that because it is natural that its therefor moral, but what they've actually argued is that because it is natural it must be genetic and therefor, not a choice we make. No different than your preferences for hair color on women.

Seems like conservatives are always moving the damn goal post.

Of course having sex is a choice, we are not rutting animals with no control over our behavior.

[Sea of red]

What ever causes homosexuality the behavior is still a choice.

We're not talking about behavior, we're talking about urges, and why people have them.

[Sea of red]

Of course having sex is a choice, we are not rutting animals with no control over our behavior.

You and I are animals, seer.

We belong to a long lineage of primates that evolved over millions of years, that has led to homo sapiens.

[HMS_Beagle]

Same with homosexuality. It is either moral or immoral regardless of how someone got that way. Being born that way has no bearing on it. So stop using that as an excuse, liberals.

What is your reason for declaring non-hetero sexual actions to be immoral other than "my Bible says so"? If you want to use that guideline for your own personal actions, fine. If you think gay sex is wrong, don't have it. But what reason can you give for trying to punish others for things that don't harm either you or society in the slightest way? Why should non-hetero people have to give up the deep intimacy that only making love with your partner can bring just because you personally disapprove?

If your Bible said being left-handed was a sin would you be out protesting and demanding baseball outlaw all left-handed batting and throwing because it's immoral?

[Jedidiah]

What is your reason for declaring non-hetero sexual actions to be immoral other than "my Bible says so"? If you want to use that guideline for your own personal actions, fine. If you think gay sex is wrong, don't have it. But what reason can you give for trying to punish others for things that don't harm either you or society in the slightest way?

In America today the goal is not to punish anyone, but to stop homosexual "behavior" being treated as normal and being worthy of celebration.

[Sea of red]

In America today the goal is not to punish anyone, but to stop homosexual "behavior" being treated as normal and being worthy of celebration.

Why is the word 'behavior' in quotes, dare I ask?

[HMS_Beagle]

In America today the goal is not to punish anyone, but to stop homosexual "behavior" being treated as normal and being worthy of celebration.

Why does it need stopping?

What oppressed minority (or any minority for that matter) hasn't celebrated their uniqueness?

If you don't like seeing gay protest parades on TV then give them full equality, stop discriminating against them and take away the reasons they have for demonstrating. Simple, n'est pas?

[Sea of red]

Why does it need stopping?

What oppressed minority (or any minority for that matter) hasn't celebrated their uniqueness?

If you don't like seeing gay protest parades on TV then give them full equality, stop discriminating against them and take away the reasons they have for demonstrating. Simple, n'est pas?

Or they could just change the channel...

[NorrinRadd]

We're not talking about behavior, we're talking about urges, and why people have them.

We all have urges. We all have some unnatural and/or sinful urges. There is no guilt associated with the urges. The guilt comes when we *act* on the sinful urges; the guilt follows the "behavior."

[NorrinRadd]

You and I are animals, seer.

We belong to a long lineage of primates that evolved over millions of years, that has led to homo sapiens.

Sorry, no, *you* may be a follicly-challenged simian. Actual humans, as the image-bearers of God, are separate from animals, even though sharing similar physicality. Xians are even more distinct.

Yes, of course I realize this is impossible according to the natural sciences. That doesn't mean it isn't factual and true.

[NorrinRadd]

What is your reason for declaring non-hetero sexual actions to be immoral other than "my Bible says so"? If you want to use that guideline for your own personal actions, fine. If you think gay sex is wrong, don't have it. But what reason can you give for trying to punish others for things that don't harm either you or society in the slightest way? Why should non-hetero people have to give up the deep intimacy that only making love with your partner can bring just because you personally disapprove?

If your Bible said being left-handed was a sin would you be out protesting and demanding baseball outlaw all left-handed batting and throwing because it's immoral?

No, but I would tell those sinister people they need to repent.

[seer]

You and I are animals, seer.

We belong to a long lineage of primates that evolved over millions of years, that has led to homo sapiens.

Really? Then we should accept other natural inclinations like the inclination to rape? The point is, as human beings , we do have control over some of our more base instincts. Or do you deny that?

[seer]

Or they could just change the channel...

Not when they force us, by law, to bake a cake for their homosexual marriage. Or force us to photograph a gay marriage, or teaching our kids that Heather having two mommies is perfectly normal.