Humans Caused Extinction of Australia�s Prehistoric Giant Animals

[hansgeorg]

The reality of the facts of sediment deposits today and all know geologic history of all known formations is that gravel deposits form conglomerates, sandstone and deposits of sand, like beaches and dunes, contain only sand, loess and siltstone contains only silt size particles, and clay deposits, shales and varved clays contain or only clay, and form from discretely uniform thin strata of clay sized particles. Stoke's Law rules in the history of deposition and rock formation.

Absolutely no evidence of a Genesis flood.

History of geological deposits is not a known. The Genesis Flood is known, from narrative history.

I was not looking for proof in the silt, of my position, just for a non-proof of yours.

[oxmixmudd]

History of geological deposits is not a known. The Genesis Flood is known, from narrative history.

I was not looking for proof in the silt, of my position, just for a non-proof of yours.

Taking a page from Donald Trump I see. TRUTH as defined by declaring it is so.

Jim

[rogue06]

Look up the experiment of Guy Berthault before invoking it next time, I gave you videos.

Stoke's law would probably apply in waters much calmer than the ones we consider here.

Berthault essentially offered a critique of Steno's original work from the 17th century rather than the many refinements and improvements made upon it over the last few centuries. Most of his "discoveries" were anything but new or revolutionary and have been widely known by geologists for well over a century.

[hansgeorg]

Taking a page from Donald Trump I see. TRUTH as defined by declaring it is so.

Jim

Jim, you are still selectively reading impaired, I see.

I was correcting someone's impression on what I argued from in a given belief or what I argued for or against by a given fact. Only someone as blind as a mole to anything not ironclad in mathematical formulas could come to a conclusion I was refraining from arguing at all and preferring to believe what I wanted with no argument at all.

[hansgeorg]

Berthault essentially offered a critique of Steno's original work from the 17th century rather than the many refinements and improvements made upon it over the last few centuries. Most of his "discoveries" were anything but new or revolutionary and have been widely known by geologists for well over a century.

Well, why are the geologists not even after his reminder applying that new and refined knowledge?

I argued with a geologist claiming dinos had been found over pelycosaurs, because of strata going very little in depth compared to the geographic distance between the fossils!

[shunyadragon]

History of geological deposits is not a known. The Genesis Flood is known, from narrative history.

The Genesis Flood is not known by any objective evidence that it ever happened. An ancient tale developed from Babylonian, Canaanite and Ugarite mythology is not known, nor supported by evidence.

The geologic history a determined and supported by the objective evidence is known beyond a reasonable doubt

I was not looking for proof in the silt, of my position, just for a non-proof of yours.

'Proof/non-proof'?!?!?! This is not comprehensible nor coherent.

Vast thickness of shale from clay sized particles over a thousand feet thick and siltstones cannot be explained by a global flood.

You have also dodged the issue of limestones, which are not remotely chemically similar to man made cement nor concrete as I have documented. Limestones cannot possibly form quickly, and they contain huge coral reefs just as they form today in conjunction with limestone formation taking place today.

The only viable 'dead duck' argument is the fideist approach that God Created everything with the appearance of age.

[TheLurch]

There are gypsum deposits hundreds of feet thick. The only way to form it is through tidal flats that fill and evaporate, each leaving an imperceptibly small new layer. Can't form in a flood, can't form in less than a staggering length of time.

[rogue06]

Well, why are the geologists not even after his reminder applying that new and refined knowledge?

I argued with a geologist claiming dinos had been found over pelycosaurs, because of strata going very little in depth compared to the geographic distance between the fossils!

They have been for well over a century. It is just that his supporters are trying to apply them to everything when the times they apply are in fact extremely limited. And dinosaurs should be found over "pelycosaurs" since the latter died out in the Late Permian and the former first appeared in the Middle Triassic.

[rogue06]

There are gypsum deposits hundreds of feet thick. The only way to form it is through tidal flats that fill and evaporate, each leaving an imperceptibly small new layer. Can't form in a flood, can't form in less than a staggering length of time.

Evaporites (essentially salt and gypsum formations) pose an insurmountable problem for the YEC Flood model that rarely gets discussed. To briefly make the point there is an aggregate thickness of 600 meters of gypsum and salt accumulated in the Michigan Basin alone. It would take a column of water nearly 1000 km (621 miles) deep to form a layer of salt 600 meters thick.

And these salt deposits aren't on top of all other strata, as you would expect if they were the result of "left over" floodwaters evaporating but are in the middle of the strata sequences with strata deposited above and below them.

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Note that the center of the basin is a whopping 16,000' below
the surface with the edges of the basin being 4000' down

And that barely scratches the surface of the problems that evaporites present.

[rogue06]

Berthault essentially offered a critique of Steno's original work from the 17th century rather than the many refinements and improvements made upon it over the last few centuries. Most of his "discoveries" were anything but new or revolutionary and have been widely known by geologists for well over a century.

Berthault used two grain sizes and using an inclined flume system with a sustained current managed to get alternating bands of fine and coarse grained sediment layers. Not only is this phenomenon not at all surprising to geologists, but the bands are very thin and are not composed of anything besides two grain sizes of sediment. The experiment does not even begin to falsify things like fossil stratification/order, radiometric ages, varves, or the formation of huge beds of limestone. Basically, it doesn't falsify anything about modern geology at all. Moreover he seemed to think that because some laminations under some circumstances can be deposited rapidly, then this was proof that all laminations could be deposited rapidly

[Roy]

Where does a 1,000 pound Kangaroo sit?

Anywhere it wants to.

[shunyadragon]

Anywhere it wants to.

. . . except where the 2000 pound kangaroo is sitting.

[Bret]

I'm not disappointed that I never saw a dinosaur...

You see, and eat, dinosaurs all the time.

[Bret]

K-Ar is basically worthless, as witness Mount St Helen.

No, just no. What "Steve Austin's dishonest testing showed is that if you use the wrong metric, you get bad data. It would be like timing a 50 yard dash with a calendar and then claiming that watches don't work.

[Bret]

Look up the experiment of Guy Berthault before invoking it next time, I gave you videos.

Yeah, because some sand and water in a separatory funnel scales up to a global flood.