Originally posted by JimL
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You, OTOH, must invoke metaphysical non-science [namely, that mass-energy are eternal] in order to support your position. Everyone else [that doesn't subscribe to your metaphysical belief of eternal mass-energy] knows that there was an absolute beginning because scientific laws demand that there had to be an absolute beginning. That is one of the dilemmas of modern science - one that must torture Atheists to no end.
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Thus, you either hold that the universe came from NOTHING or you must escape into the limitless fantasies of non-science, where anything goes: mass-energy are eternal, primordial goo becomes Einstein and so on. We now know where you stand.
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That you are unable to grasp the simple logic of that argument is your problem.
Jorge
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