There have been a number of questions concerning the relationship of time and the Quantum World. I found this site which gave a good explanation for this relationship.
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Yep, finite and temporal - 'Quantum mechanics predicts the existence of what are usually called ''zero-point'' . . .'. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThere have been a number of questions concerning the relationship of time and the Quantum World. I found this site which gave a good explanation for this relationship.
http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html
Are you trying to claim that we can somehow extract this "zero point energy" to have an unlimited energy source? If so, I disagree with you. This is a crackpot idea that doesn't understand the meaning of "zero-point".
Or are you trying to cast doubt on the popular notion that the Big Bang is the result of a "quantum fluctuation"? If so, I agree with you. Per Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, for a "quantum fluctuation" to exist for 13.7 billion years requires the total energy of the fluctuation (the universe) to be exactly zero, to many, many decimals. The conflicts with the idea of "zero-point energy".
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostYep, finite and temporal - 'Quantum mechanics predicts the existence of what are usually called ''zero-point'' . . .'
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Originally posted by Kbertsche View PostAnd your pont is ...?
Are you trying to claim that we can somehow extract this "zero point energy" to have an unlimited energy source? If so, I disagree with you. This is a crackpot idea that doesn't understand the meaning of "zero-point".
Or are you trying to cast doubt on the popular notion that the Big Bang is the result of a "quantum fluctuation"? If so, I agree with you. Per Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, for a "quantum fluctuation" to exist for 13.7 billion years requires the total energy of the fluctuation (the universe) to be exactly zero, to many, many decimals. The conflicts with the idea of "zero-point energy".
Conflicts? There are many unresolved question concerning the formation of singularities and the resulting universes. If you are genuinely interested read the rest of the article and comment constructively.Last edited by shunyadragon; 06-25-2016, 08:57 PM.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostOriginally posted by 37818 View PostYep, finite and temporal - 'Quantum mechanics predicts the existence of what are usually called ''zero-point'' . . .'. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Conflicts? There are many unresolved question concerning the formation of singularities and the resulting universes. If you are genuinely interested read the rest of the article and comment constructively.
1) the page has a link to a patent which claims to be able to remove energy from the quantum vacuum, which is complete crackpot nonsense.
2) the site is free-lance, not connected to any university or research laboratory. I can't tell whether or not they are trying to push an agenda or a crackpot theory themselves, but I am very suspicious.
My "constructive comment" is that you try to get your physics information from websites that are connected to major universities or research laboratories.Last edited by Kbertsche; 06-25-2016, 09:43 PM.
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostSo zero is not finite. And fluctuations are not changes (time). If you say so.
As far as the time factor concerning fluctuations. Time is momentary during fluctuations and no time arrow exists as in the space.time relationship of our universe, or any other possible universe.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Postthe concept of 'zero-energy' has nothing to do with infinite nor finite.
. . . It has to do with the Quantum energy base state in the Quantum world.
As far as the time factor concerning fluctuations. Time is momentary during fluctuations and no time arrow exists as in the space.time relationship of our universe, or any other possible universe.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostThat is finite!
Fluctuation are changes - which would define or be defined by both space and time. Otherwise to say there are fluctuations is utter nonsense.
As far as the time factor concerning fluctuations. Time is momentary during fluctuations and no time arrow exists as in the relative space/time continuum relationship of our universe, or any other possible universe. Read the reference again or cite another scientific reference. In the Quantum World T=0.
This is a science topic. Scientific references, please. Further posts like this will be ignored.Last edited by shunyadragon; 06-26-2016, 06:35 AM.
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