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Is the Earth Flat? - Some Evidence Presented
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Further to the previous discussion on clouds. If the earth is curved then we should see the clouds curve away at the horizon just as we see ships fall under the horizon. Picture 1 shows the view we see on earth with the clouds and ships shrinking in the distance due to perspective.
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Picture 1
Picture 2 shows the view if the earth is curved. There is an inconsistency in the ship orientation and the cloud orientation. The ships bend with the curved earth, but the clouds do not. This is typical of what we see with curved earth claims. The claims typically follow the ship, but ignore the lack of cloud curvature.
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Picture 3 shows what should be seen if the earth is curved. Both the ship and the clouds should be curved over the horizon.
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Picture 3
The inconsistency between the ships disappearing over the horizon and the lack of cloud curvature directed over the distant ships indicates the curved earths claims require observations to be eclectic.
Pictures taken from
at T1:30.
JM
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Originally posted by HMS_Beagle View PostI told you you're not my mother. And I wouldn't have to keep slapping you if you were honest and dealt with the tons of evidence against your Geo / flat earth stupidity already provided.
JM
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All pictures were taken from this video - Flat Earth Freedom
An eclipse was photographed from a plane on 20 March 2015. The location of the plane was near Scotland as the eclipse path crosses over Scotland. Notice how high on the earth the shadow is, falling over Greenland and Scotland.
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Eclipse Location on 20 March 2015.
Long shadow of the moon over the earth.
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Picture 1
The location of sun-moon and plane in relation to the plane, near Scotland.
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Picture 2
The moon and sun are aligned at 5.14 degrees to the horizontal. The shadow from the moon sould be caste on the earth as shown and not be seen by the plane.
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Picture 3
The photo shows the sun spot on the clouds and the short shadow below the clouds. These indicate a small, close sun above the clouds.
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Picture 4
Pictures 5 and 6 show the moon shadow caste on a flat plane, matching what is seen from the photo's taken in flight.
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Picture 5
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Picture 6
A contrast of the ball earth model with the flat earth model. The ball earth model shows the moons shadow low. The flat earth model shows the shadow long, matching the photo in flight.
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A statement of what was observed from the plane and when.
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Picture 8
Conclusion - If the details of this eclipse event are correct, then physical support has been found in favor of a flat earth, against the ball earth model. As the geometry of the eclipse favors a flat earth model, evidence is also inferred for the moon being close to the sun and therefore having a similar size to the sun.
The eclipse is shown below -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SE2015Mar20T.gif
JMLast edited by JohnMartin; 02-09-2016, 05:53 AM.
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Originally posted by JohnMartin View PostFurther to the previous discussion on clouds. If the earth is curved then we should see the clouds curve away at the horizon just as we see ships fall under the horizon. Picture 1 shows the view we see on earth with the clouds and ships shrinking in the distance due to perspective.
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Picture 1
Picture 2 shows the view if the earth is curved. There is an inconsistency in the ship orientation and the cloud orientation. The ships bend with the curved earth, but the clouds do not. This is typical of what we see with curved earth claims. The claims typically follow the ship, but ignore the lack of cloud curvature.
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Picture 2
Picture 3 shows what should be seen if the earth is curved. Both the ship and the clouds should be curved over the horizon.
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Picture 3
The inconsistency between the ships disappearing over the horizon and the lack of cloud curvature directed over the distant ships indicates the curved earths claims require observations to be eclectic.
Pictures taken from
at T1:30.
JM
As for the clouds, I can see the curvature you talk about almost any time I look at the clouds. What is your problem?
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by JohnMartin View PostEven with the claims of slowing the film to imitate moon walking on the moon, the moon walks are still faked. The steps and jumps are too small for 1/6th gravity. Your conclusion is largely based upon the testimony of one video which doesn't address many other objections.
Not to mention that they didn't want to risk falling over and damaging their suits on rocks.Middle-of-the-road swing voter. Feel free to sway my opinion.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostIf you're aiming for the thread starter, you missed. He's an ardent Roman Catholic.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/...n-is-over.html"Look at what happened after the European peoples succeeded in removing the clergy from public life and restricting them to their churches. They built up human being promoted enlightenment, creativity and rebellion. States which are based on religion confine their people in the circle of faith and fear."-Raif Badawi
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostI thought he was Catholic.
Oh, nevermind. Looks like the Pig has you sorted."Look at what happened after the European peoples succeeded in removing the clergy from public life and restricting them to their churches. They built up human being promoted enlightenment, creativity and rebellion. States which are based on religion confine their people in the circle of faith and fear."-Raif Badawi
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Posthey stupid, go to the beach and hold a ruler up to the horizon. You'll notice that the ocean droops at the edges, just like in picture 2.
As for the clouds, I can see the curvature you talk about almost any time I look at the clouds. What is your problem?
Jim
A ruler to the eye? I suppose whenever the ruler moves the earth ain't curved no more. If the ruler is a little bent then the earth is doubly curved. If we have a drink or two, the earth is no longer sober.
What a joke.
JM
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Originally posted by Yttrium View PostOf course the steps were small. Their suits were pumped up like balloons, making it difficult to move in them. You're not going to take long strides in one of those spacesuits.
Not to mention that they didn't want to risk falling over and damaging their suits on rocks.
Where did those moon buggies come from? Quite large weren't they and those pods were quite small. I guess they were waiting for them when they landed at the local studio. Apparently the space pods just move through 2000 degree space without feeling the temperature and the van Allen belt twice without affecting the astronauts. Those guys could also throw away their suits before they left the moon as well. No need for a suit, we will open the pod door in 200 degree heat and no atmosphere, take a loooong breath, and then throw the suit out. After that, then reconnect with the orbiting ship, then head back home. No problems at all.
NASA is a faith based initiative. Not much substance their at all.
JM
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Originally posted by JohnMartin View PostApparently the space pods just move through 2000 degree space...Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by JohnMartin View PostThe landings are a fraud.Middle-of-the-road swing voter. Feel free to sway my opinion.
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