Got your Flu Shot?

[mikewhitney]

Did you get a flu shot?

There may be bad side effects for this era.




This editorial written in February is weird. There's a big concern about the spread. However, the article mentions what we have learned (and recently confirmed), namely that this coronavirus basically only affects the elderly and chronically ill patients. Both groups of people have to be careful anyhow. Plus, he mentions that the disease already had spread greatly. So quarantines don't make sense at that point.

It is also funny to mention the Imperial College Report for various reasons. The report was a totally bogus one based on Ferguson, who constantly made bad models and predictions. This editorial then properly mentions that it is the elderly and chronically ill people that are susceptible. However, the large numbers of the Imperial College London were not mentioned, nor could encompass just the elderly. Thus we see many inconsistencies.

Then there is a response to the editorial that is interesting



The study on the flu shots is here

Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22423139/

Increased risk of noninfluenza respiratory virus infections associated with receipt of inactivated influenza vaccine
Benjamin J Cowling 1 , Vicky J Fang, Hiroshi Nishiura, Kwok-Hung Chan, Sophia Ng, Dennis K M Ip, Susan S Chiu, Gabriel M Leung, J S Malik Peiris
PMID: 22423139 PMCID: PMC3404712 DOI: 10.1093/cid/cis307
Abstract

We randomized 115 children to trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine (TIV) or placebo. Over the following 9 months, TIV recipients had an increased risk of virologically-confirmed non-influenza infections (relative risk: 4.40; 95% confidence interval: 1.31-14.8). Being protected against influenza, TIV recipients may lack temporary non-specific immunity that protected against other respiratory viruses.

© Copyright Original Source

So it seems that flu shots may not be a good idea in light of the coronavirus situation.

[shunyadragon]

Yes I got my flu virus vaccine and do so every year. Your references are disjoint and confusingly selective as usual. The first reference is a little dated, but okay. The second does not refer to the specific corona virus that causes COVID-19, because there is a present no research on the relationship between the corona virus that causes COVID-19 and the flushot, which have just begun to be distributed.. It most be noted that there are many corona virus including a number of variations of colds.

[mikewhitney]

Yes I got my flu virus vaccine and do so every year. Your references are disjoint and confusingly selective as usual. The first reference is a little dated, but okay. The second does not refer to the specific corona virus that causes COVID-19, because there is a present no research on the relationship between the corona virus that causes COVID-19 and the flushot, which have just begun to be distributed.. It most be noted that there are many corona virus including a number of variations of colds.

I'm sorry. I forget that scientific studies are irrelevant to discussions your participate in. Keep up with those flu shots since you are not concerned about becoming more vulnerable to infection by coronavirus.

Oh right. You also mean that this novel coronavirus will be uniquely opposed to infecting people that are more vulnerable due to flu shots.

[shunyadragon]

I'm sorry. I forget that scientific studies are irrelevant to discussions your participate in. Keep up with those flu shots since you are not concerned about becoming more vulnerable to infection by coronavirus.

Oh right. You also mean that this novel coronavirus will be uniquely opposed to infecting people that are more vulnerable due to flu shots.

Huh?!?!?!?!

[mikewhitney]

Huh?!?!?!?!

Just that you think, without scientific basis, that the flu shots' creation of a vulnerability to respiratory infections does not also make one more vulnerable to the novel coronavirus.

[shunyadragon]

Just that you think, without scientific basis, that the flu shots' creation of a vulnerability to respiratory infections does not also make one more vulnerable to the novel coronavirus.

True, without a scientific there is no reason to believe the flu shot makes one vulnerable to COVID-19

[mikewhitney]

True, without a scientific there is no reason to believe the flu shot makes one vulnerable to COVID-19

Indeed. That is why I provided the study in the OP.

If you keep on getting the flu shots, do request for the shots without mercury.

[mikewhitney]

I'm watching a series of 9 videos on vaccines. I would recommend everyone watch these. The site is vrevealed.com and is available for a short time.

One of the videos incorporated a movie on the problem of mercury in vaccines (but no longer in the regular childhold vaccinations anymore). I think this was the 7th or 8th video.

The guy who made this movie on mercury had symptoms of mercury poisoning as an adult and this got worse after he had a Tetanus shot that had Thiomersal.

He became supersensitive to sounds. He also had muscular control problems. But one weird effect was that he gained great insights into technical details at work. So, somehow his mind became sharper despite other things deteriorating in his life. He eventually got treated to remove the mercury from his body -- but the removal of mercury always is a careful process.

Here's a video of an expert on organic mercury who died from it. This is a doctor's evaluation of what happened. It is interesting how deadly this is

[mikewhitney]

Here is some information about the general ineffectivity of flu shots. It is like 1 out of every 100 people that get the flu shot has a benefit from it.


I found the following Cochrane study via this website: https://ahrp.org/cochrane-collaborat...of-no-benefit/



Vaccines for preventing influenza in healthy adults
Cochrane Systematic Review - Intervention Version published: 07 July 2010



The following link reviews the present situation concerning the flu shots. I think it said the same thing as this previous study.
https://community.cochrane.org/news/...een-stabilised

There are also little benefit presented by this analysis
https://www.cochrane.org/CD001269/AR...healthy-adults

[mikewhitney]

The VAERS system, primarily designed for childhood vaccination adverse effects reporting, has now been inundated with cases of people affected by flu shots. I think flu shots are now somewhere between 87-93 percent of cases being decided. The problems with flu shots primarily relate to the elderly -- i think this was 87 percent of the flu shot cases. (Sorry, I'm sort of mixed up on the exact numbers but these are roughly right and they give the general trend of the statistics.)

If memory serves, Canada does not have a Vaccine court and does not have recourse against the vaccine manufacturers. Yet, there may be novel approaches for suing the pharmaceuticals.

If people want to consider getting the flu shot, first review the inserts that come with the shots and decide what to review with the doctor before being in a situation where such shots are offered. The medical doctors tend to trust basic practices and therefore do not read the harmful effects associated with the shots.

[mikewhitney]

I have supplied a link to the youtube video which discusses many things, partly about recovering from some neurological conditions. I am noting here the problem of the flu shots with the time the report is mentioned in the video. The flu shot makes people more vulnerable to other respiratory infections. Plus, most of the flu shot contain harmful mercury (but I posted the link of a related video earlier). At least, a version of the flu shot is available without mercury (or minimal toxic levels of it).

35:29 report: Increased Risk of Noninfluenza Respiratory Virus Infections Associated with Receipt of Inactivated Influenza Vaccine publ Mar 2012
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22423139/
http://europepmc.org/article/MED/22423139

This is a really good video on several things. The title is Recognizing Neurologic Damage in Adults and Children 2020 and is by Dr. John Bergman D.C.

[NorrinRadd]

Flu is fairly trivial this season, so why even bother vaccinating?

[mikewhitney]

Flu is fairly trivial this season, so why even bother vaccinating?

So they don't miss their dose of mercury? Kids need the flu shot for this since Thimerosal was mostly removed from childhood vaccines -- but still with potentially debilitating trace-levels of mercury.

The flu symptoms lead to covid-19 diagnoses to beef up covid-19 numbers.