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Book Plunge: Can Christians Prove The Resurrection?

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  • Originally posted by JimL View Post
    Thats correct so shed your fear and shame, live in accordance to your values and enjoy life, while you have it. Even if a god existed, the only reason to fear it would be if it were evil.
    I don't have any fear or shame either way. As a Christian, my patron is God Almighty. Guaranteed happily ever after, eventually!
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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    • Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
      I don't have any fear or shame either way. As a Christian, my patron is God Almighty. Guaranteed happily ever after, eventually!
      If it gives you peace and comfort, great. Just don't threaten the rest of us with your ancient superstition.

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      • Originally posted by Gary View Post
        If it gives you peace and comfort, great. Just don't threaten the rest of us with your ancient superstition.
        I believe the threat is over rated, for the most part it is self inflicted by human fears, and clinging to ancient traditions as meaningful in today's world.

        Pascal's Wager rules the choices of most believers. The elephants are now held by threads.

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        • Originally posted by Gary View Post
          If it gives you peace and comfort, great. Just don't threaten the rest of us with your ancient superstition.
          first I heard that someone warning you you are headed off a cliff is threatening you. again Gary has to be dishonest in his handling of others views and instead of trying to deal with their actual views and beliefs.

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          • Originally posted by Gary View Post
            If it gives you peace and comfort, great. Just don't threaten the rest of us with your ancient superstition.
            If eternal damnation is but a myth. Say others are lost does not make anyone lost. But if there is a just and holy God to judge us even as we judge others, saying people are safe when there is a real eternal danger, only condemns them from any real hope of salvation.
            . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

            . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

            Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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            • Originally posted by 37818 View Post
              If eternal damnation is but a myth. Say others are lost does not make anyone lost. But if there is a just and holy God to judge us even as we judge others, saying people are safe when there is a real eternal danger, only condemns them from any real hope of salvation.
              It's not real, my friend. It is only an ancient superstition, no different than the stories you were told as a child about the Boogeyman. There is no reason to fear "him" any longer.

              Come out from the darkness and fear of supernaturalism.

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              • Originally posted by Gary View Post
                It's not real, my friend. It is only an ancient superstition, no different than the stories you were told as a child about the Boogeyman. There is no reason to fear "him" any longer.

                Come out from the darkness and fear of supernaturalism.
                Well I was never told stories about the boogeyman. Though mentioned by others. I never really believe there was a Santa Claus or Easter Bunny or tooth fairy. I participated in those activities as if they were real. I believed in God as early as I can remember. I didn't like Sunday school home work. I had no use for it. It was the notion that one can know for sure about going to heaven - that I heard and understood the gospel message for the first time.

                For you to claim that people who die will not perish in an eternal hell for an eternity - that it is a myth. I'll ask you this - do you know this with absolute certainty? How? You have to have something in its place that you know for sure about - without a doubt. Please explain.
                . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

                . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

                Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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                • God is not a monster.
                  Near the Peoples' Republic of Davis, south of the State of Jefferson (Suspended between Left and Right)

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                  • Originally posted by 37818 View Post
                    Well I was never told stories about the boogeyman. Though mentioned by others. I never really believe there was a Santa Claus or Easter Bunny or tooth fairy. I participated in those activities as if they were real. I believed in God as early as I can remember. I didn't like Sunday school home work. I had no use for it. It was the notion that one can know for sure about going to heaven - that I heard and understood the gospel message for the first time.

                    For you to claim that people who die will not perish in an eternal hell for an eternity - that it is a myth. I'll ask you this - do you know this with absolute certainty? How? You have to have something in its place that you know for sure about - without a doubt. Please explain.
                    Can you be 100% certain that when you die you will not burn for all eternity in the Muslim Hell because you are a wicked infidel who never acknowledged that Allah is the only true God and that the Koran is the only true Word of God?

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                    • Originally posted by Adam View Post
                      God is not a monster.
                      Anyone who threatens to punish you if you refuse to love him is a sadistic monster.

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                      • Originally posted by Adam View Post
                        God is not a monster.
                        Why did God create the eternal hell fire? And for whom?
                        . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

                        . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

                        Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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                        • Originally posted by Gary View Post
                          Anyone who threatens to punish you if you refuse to love him is a sadistic monster.
                          Ah, the delightful odor of burning straw.
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                          • Originally posted by 37818 View Post
                            Why did God create the eternal hell fire? And for whom?
                            Regardless of why he created it, if he is all-knowing, he knew that the majority of mankind would end up suffering there for all eternity. So why did he create mankind to begin with if he knew most of us would suffer horrifically forever in his torture pit???

                            Sadist.

                            You didn't answer my question:

                            "Can you be 100% certain that when you die you will not burn for all eternity in the Muslim Hell because you are a wicked infidel who never acknowledged that Allah is the only true God and that the Koran is the only true Word of God?"

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                            • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                              Ah, the delightful odor of burning straw.
                              Was I speaking to you? I am fully aware that your Hell Concept does not involve burning or eternity. I was addressing someone who does believe in those concepts.

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                              • Originally posted by Gary View Post
                                Was I speaking to you? I am fully aware that your Hell Concept does not involve burning or eternity. I was addressing someone who does believe in those concepts.
                                Who here actually believes that? I don't think that nut who wrote 23 Minutes in Hell is a member of tweb. It would not be just to have evil demons torturing puny earthlings for eternity. Those demons don't deserve to have such fun. Now, if humans got to torture demons with the power of sheer annoyance...
                                If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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