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  • #61
    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    . . . "Lucifer" himself has nothing better to do than to possess a random African woman...
    . . . and target Reinhard Bonkee.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by arnoldo View Post
      . . . and target Reinhard Bonkee.
      It's not Bonkee. It's Bonnke. And he's just as bad, falsely "prophesying" a global revival starting in the UK in the 90's. To date, every year, church attendance in the UK has fallen. False prophecy = false prophet.

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      That's what
      - She

      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
      - Stephen R. Donaldson

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
        It's not Bonkee. It's Bonnke. And he's just as bad, falsely "prophesying" a global revival starting in the UK in the 90's. To date, every year, church attendance in the UK has fallen. False prophecy = false prophet.

        Next...
        That's according to a wikipedia article about Bonnkee.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Bonnke
        Do you have any other examples of any so-called false prophecies by Bonnke?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by arnoldo View Post
          That's according to a wikipedia article about Bonnkee.
          One E! And Wiki records it too, yes.


          Do you have any other examples of any so-called false prophecies by Bonnke?
          One is all that is necessary. But just for your instruction:

          It doesn't matter if they get healed or not, what matters is that the Lord wants the blind to be prayed for now." (It is His business anyway if they get healed, we obviously have nothing to do with that anyway.) The Word is sure, "the Word of God" Jesus spoke to him "is as powerful in My mouth as it is in your mouth." Reinhard said to himself, "that sounds like heresy." The Lord repeated Himself, "My Word in My mouth is as powerful as My word in your mouth!"
          - At Brownsville AOG in 1999
          http://www.blessedquietness.com/jour...e/matraya3.htm
          That's what
          - She

          Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
          - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

          I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
          - Stephen R. Donaldson

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
            One E! And Wiki records it too, yes.
            Did I spell Rienhard right?



            Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
            One is all that is necessary. But just for your instruction:

            It doesn't matter if they get healed or not, what matters is that the Lord wants the blind to be prayed for now." (It is His business anyway if they get healed, we obviously have nothing to do with that anyway.) The Word is sure, "the Word of God" Jesus spoke to him "is as powerful in My mouth as it is in your mouth." Reinhard said to himself, "that sounds like heresy." The Lord repeated Himself, "My Word in My mouth is as powerful as My word in your mouth!"
            - At Brownsville AOG in 1999
            http://www.blessedquietness.com/jour...e/matraya3.htm
            Then I suppose this video of someone allegedly rising from the dead isn't true.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by arnoldo View Post
              Did I spell Rienhard right?
              No. "Reinhard"

              Then I suppose this video of someone allegedly rising from the dead isn't true.
              ***Edited***

              http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/bonnke2.html
              It was a fraudulent scheme.
              Last edited by Bill the Cat; 12-07-2015, 07:27 AM.
              That's what
              - She

              Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
              - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

              I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
              - Stephen R. Donaldson

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              • #67
                Not one of these "healings" took place where there was any chance of an objective test.
                Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                  Not one of these "healings" took place where there was any chance of an objective test.
                  Neither did any of the healings in the NT take place where there was an objective test. Do you believe those took place?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                    . . . It was a fraudulent scheme. . .
                    Like the allegation the disciple's stole Jesus's body? (Matthew 28:13)

                    The person who wrote the article linked below interviewed all of the parties involved and concluded it wasn't a fraudulent scheme.
                    http://www.bereanpublishers.com/conc...iel-ekechukwu/

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by arnoldo View Post
                      Neither did any of the healings in the NT take place where there was an objective test. Do you believe those took place?
                      Jesus was not taking donations to do dubious healing.
                      Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                        Jesus was not taking donations to do dubious healing.
                        So you believe Jesus did healings in the NT. Why won't He do so today?

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by arnoldo View Post
                          So you believe Jesus did healings in the NT. Why won't He do so today?
                          He does. As answered prayer when according to God's will. It is just not being done by prophecy today.
                          . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

                          . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

                          Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by arnoldo View Post
                            Like the allegation the disciple's stole Jesus's body? (Matthew 28:13)

                            The person who wrote the article linked below interviewed all of the parties involved and concluded it wasn't a fraudulent scheme.
                            http://www.bereanpublishers.com/conc...iel-ekechukwu/
                            He is a false teacher in his own right. Explain in your own words his teaching on how to be born again. You can include quotes from him to support your presentation.
                            . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

                            . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

                            Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by 37818 View Post
                              He is a false teacher in his own right.
                              David Servant is someone who interviewed all persons shown in the video. I don't think anyone is dispupting that, even "Deceptions in the Church." His eyewitness accounts were used by "Deceptions in the Church" to allegedly discredit the events depicted in the video. David Servant counters all such arguments in the link below.

                              http://www.heavensfamily.org/ss/answ...niel-ekechukwu

                              Originally posted by 37818 View Post
                              Explain in your own words his teaching on how to be born again. You can include quotes from him to support your presentation.
                              I don't know his teaching, perhaps you could enlighten us?

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by arnoldo View Post
                                David Servant is someone who interviewed all persons shown in the video. I don't think anyone is dispupting that, even "Deceptions in the Church." His eyewitness accounts were used by "Deceptions in the Church" to allegedly discredit the events depicted in the video. David Servant counters all such arguments in the link below.

                                http://www.heavensfamily.org/ss/answ...niel-ekechukwu
                                David Servant is a worshipper of mammon. And all he did here was reiterate the claims made by the members of the church Bonnke was preaching at.
                                That's what
                                - She

                                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                                I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                                - Stephen R. Donaldson

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