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Originally posted by 37818 View PostYou do not understand. Jesus was both a man and the Son of God (John 5:18), one person, two natures, not mixed. He was not a demigod. Unless you as a Jehovah's Witness believe your Jesus Christ, a god, is a demigod.
No earth he was a Man.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSo you are a polytheist then. You believe in more than one God even though Jehovah said he is the only true God and there are no Gods before or after him.
A Bible teaching!!
Origin of other gods or powerful spirits:-
Deuteronomy 32:17
They were sacrificing to demons, not to God, To gods that they had not known, New ones that came along recently, To gods that your forefathers did not know.
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Originally posted by Darfius View PostThere can only be one "the Holy One". That's how "one" works. But let me do you a favor and explain to you why you're going to hell unless you accept the Son, that is, admit that He is God. The only way to be saved is to believe on, that is, do the will of, the Son. If you do not admit that He is God and therefore worthy of absolute obedience, there will come a point where you will refuse to do His will. That point is hell. Don't go to hell. Accept the Son.
Psalm 106:16
And of Aaron, the holy one of Jehovah.
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Originally posted by Bibleuser View PostAnother "holy one."
Psalm 106:16
And of Aaron, the holy one of Jehovah.
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Originally posted by Bibleuser View PostAs the Bile says there are "many gods" re my quote Paul who said there were "many gods", so I agree with him that there are "many gods" then and now; but only "one true God" as at John 17:3.
A Bible teaching!!
"You are my witnesses," declares the LORD, "and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me" (Isaiah 43:10).
Isaiah 44:6 "This is what the LORD says-- Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God. 7 Who then is like me? Let him proclaim it. Let him declare and lay out before me what has happened since I established my ancient people, and what is yet to come-- yes, let him foretell what will come. 8 Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one."*
Are you saying you don't believe Jehovah himself???
Origin of other gods or powerful spirits:-
Deuteronomy 32:17
They were sacrificing to demons, not to God, To gods that they had not known, New ones that came along recently, To gods that your forefathers did not know.
BU
Since there is only ONE True God, Jesus is either: The One True God, or a False God. Which do you choose?Last edited by Sparko; 01-05-2018, 07:38 AM.
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Originally posted by Bibleuser View PostMan-God = Demigod
No other way!
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bibleuser View PostJesus as "a god" is talking of his heavenly role as The Word.
No earth he was a Man.
BU. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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It would only be the death of a perfect man to cancel out the sin of the first perfect man Adam.
As Adam was the father of a fallen man that dies etc., then Jesus as a sin free faithful man is God replacement for sinful Adam so having faith in this Gods given replacement for Adam one then can have a sin free father, Jesus, and thus be sin free (via faith) and worship Jehovah forever in love and harmony.
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostWell a couple issues here. John 1:1 is to be correctly translate "The Word was God." In the very least, in same way Jehovah had Moses to be "God" to Pharaoh (Exodus 7:1). Twice we are told that the Word was "with God," John 1:1 & 1:2. Someone "with" or facing another is not the other. Is that not true? [Do not forget, I do hold to a Trinity view point. Most Trinitarians do not understand how the Word was not God being called God.]
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with The God, and the Word was god. . .
This one was in the beginning with The God.
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Originally posted by Bibleuser View PostJohn 1:1-2 Literal
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with The God, and the Word was god. . .
This one was in the beginning with The God.
BUThat's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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