I'm going to get right to the point:
LDS is atheism wrapped in polytheism inside Christianity.
The polytheism is clear: In Greek mythology, Zeus turned into a mortal and had sex with the mortal Selene to produce a demigod Dionysus.
But in LDS, God the Father condescended to be a mortal man to have literal sex with mortal Mary to produce the mortal body of a demigod Jesus.
LDS one-ups Greek mythology: God the Father in a spirit body had literal sex with a mysterious Heavenly Mother to produce the spirit body of Jehovah, and mysteriously transferred the spirit body of Jehovah through sex with Mary into the mortal body of Jesus.
And that's how Gods have been doing it since who knows when. But then again, they aren't really Gods as Christians view God:
LDS: God the Father was once a man, and His God was once a man, with all roads inevitably leading back to evolution from matter, not by creation from any God:
LDS: God is basically just a human evolved from matter who found a computer to program and arrange what already existed into various worlds so he could play God within them:
Stopping at this point, most Mormons start to squirm when I ask about the Alpha God who started it all, and with good reason. There is no God as such in LDS, only eternal matter. That's why when you get down to that understanding, LDS is inherently atheist.
Wrapped up like baby Jesus and presented to gullible people, it's everything we want: atheism, polytheism, we can be like gods too, there is no ultimate God! But it's still the message of Satan:
Genesis 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Now here's a biblical view:
LDS also acknowledges an intelligent energy by which spirit bodies then human bodies come to exist. I'll make it simple to say that the intelligent energy is Father God to start with, and He acts on creation by emanating power which is the Spirit, and instructions by which the Spirit will act on creation which is the Word of God. So for an analogy, God is one like I am one employer who may exert my influence (Spirit) on employees (creation) to give them instructions (Word), and my influence and instructions may take on different forms as they go out into my workforce, but we are all still one. We aren't actually different humans standing around in different places. It's still more about human perception of who I am, since what I say I want may take on a life of its own as its being accomplished to handle the finer details of things.
That's Trinity in a nutshell. Now about Jesus specifically:
God's promise of a Messiah to King David required that David always have a son on an everlasting throne. The promise could not be fulfilled after any gap in generations, so it required David's own son to be resurrected. I say it was the son who died for David's sin with Uriah, resurrected as Jesus dying for sins of everyone, resurrected into the womb of a virgin surrogate mother Mary, as a sign given to King Ahaz and the House of David that it would be a miraculous birth, much like the barren Sarah would have a miraculous birth.
Resurrection is entirely biblical: we don't know where the dead are going to be resurrected in the end, straight from their graves or into a womb. If anyone has been scattered to sea or burned up in the Holocaust blown around Europe, God has the power to put them back together wherever He wants. Among many clues as to how Jesus was born to a virgin and who he really is: Isaiah 11:6 ...and a little child shall lead them.
Additionally, that David's promise could be fulfilled biologically through Mary not only doesn't work prophetically, Mary's lineage is not even given in the Bible except for that she may be a Levite. She may be an Egyptian convert for all we know. Therefore the human body and nature of Jesus -- being capable of temptation and death -- likely came from David and Bathsheba, he was 100% mortal not a demigod, to start with.
As to Jesus being God: many humans were filled with God's presence, let's use the human King David his father to illustrate. He had enough of God's presence to act like a god doing many incredible things. Yet he sinned, so we could say his cup was partly full. The cup of Jesus was completely full, not because he was a demigod, but because he was fully human resisting temptation and entirely obedient to the Father so that the presence of God, those instructions as the Word of God as well as the Spirit, was fully within him, making a human God to be the kind of Messiah promised to David that would rule an everlasting kingdom. Which is again is entirely biblical: if human kings, prophets, tabernacle builders, etc. can have some presence of God, then the human Messiah can have the full presence of God.
So the message isn't about Gods turning into men and back into Gods, or endless Gods, or about Gods having the sexual times of their lives: it's about making the human Messiah equal to God so that he can effectively rule an everlasting kingdom, as promised to David.
And that's what LDS seems to completely ignore.
LDS is atheism wrapped in polytheism inside Christianity.
The polytheism is clear: In Greek mythology, Zeus turned into a mortal and had sex with the mortal Selene to produce a demigod Dionysus.
But in LDS, God the Father condescended to be a mortal man to have literal sex with mortal Mary to produce the mortal body of a demigod Jesus.
LDS one-ups Greek mythology: God the Father in a spirit body had literal sex with a mysterious Heavenly Mother to produce the spirit body of Jehovah, and mysteriously transferred the spirit body of Jehovah through sex with Mary into the mortal body of Jesus.
And that's how Gods have been doing it since who knows when. But then again, they aren't really Gods as Christians view God:
LDS: God the Father was once a man, and His God was once a man, with all roads inevitably leading back to evolution from matter, not by creation from any God:
Latter-day Saints perceive the Father as an exalted Man in the most literal, anthropomorphic terms.
God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! ...He was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ Himself did; and I will show it from the Bible.
My Father worked out His kingdom with fear and trembling, and I must do the same; and when I get my kingdom, I shall present it to My Father, so that He may obtain kingdom upon kingdom, and it will exalt Him in glory. He will then take a higher exaltation, and I will take His place, and thereby become exalted myself. So that Jesus treads in the tracks of His Father, and inherits what God did before; and God is thus glorified and exalted in the salvation and exaltation of all His children.
God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! ...He was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ Himself did; and I will show it from the Bible.
My Father worked out His kingdom with fear and trembling, and I must do the same; and when I get my kingdom, I shall present it to My Father, so that He may obtain kingdom upon kingdom, and it will exalt Him in glory. He will then take a higher exaltation, and I will take His place, and thereby become exalted myself. So that Jesus treads in the tracks of His Father, and inherits what God did before; and God is thus glorified and exalted in the salvation and exaltation of all His children.
LDS: God is basically just a human evolved from matter who found a computer to program and arrange what already existed into various worlds so he could play God within them:
Stopping at this point, most Mormons start to squirm when I ask about the Alpha God who started it all, and with good reason. There is no God as such in LDS, only eternal matter. That's why when you get down to that understanding, LDS is inherently atheist.
Wrapped up like baby Jesus and presented to gullible people, it's everything we want: atheism, polytheism, we can be like gods too, there is no ultimate God! But it's still the message of Satan:
Genesis 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Now here's a biblical view:
LDS also acknowledges an intelligent energy by which spirit bodies then human bodies come to exist. I'll make it simple to say that the intelligent energy is Father God to start with, and He acts on creation by emanating power which is the Spirit, and instructions by which the Spirit will act on creation which is the Word of God. So for an analogy, God is one like I am one employer who may exert my influence (Spirit) on employees (creation) to give them instructions (Word), and my influence and instructions may take on different forms as they go out into my workforce, but we are all still one. We aren't actually different humans standing around in different places. It's still more about human perception of who I am, since what I say I want may take on a life of its own as its being accomplished to handle the finer details of things.
That's Trinity in a nutshell. Now about Jesus specifically:
God's promise of a Messiah to King David required that David always have a son on an everlasting throne. The promise could not be fulfilled after any gap in generations, so it required David's own son to be resurrected. I say it was the son who died for David's sin with Uriah, resurrected as Jesus dying for sins of everyone, resurrected into the womb of a virgin surrogate mother Mary, as a sign given to King Ahaz and the House of David that it would be a miraculous birth, much like the barren Sarah would have a miraculous birth.
Resurrection is entirely biblical: we don't know where the dead are going to be resurrected in the end, straight from their graves or into a womb. If anyone has been scattered to sea or burned up in the Holocaust blown around Europe, God has the power to put them back together wherever He wants. Among many clues as to how Jesus was born to a virgin and who he really is: Isaiah 11:6 ...and a little child shall lead them.
Additionally, that David's promise could be fulfilled biologically through Mary not only doesn't work prophetically, Mary's lineage is not even given in the Bible except for that she may be a Levite. She may be an Egyptian convert for all we know. Therefore the human body and nature of Jesus -- being capable of temptation and death -- likely came from David and Bathsheba, he was 100% mortal not a demigod, to start with.
As to Jesus being God: many humans were filled with God's presence, let's use the human King David his father to illustrate. He had enough of God's presence to act like a god doing many incredible things. Yet he sinned, so we could say his cup was partly full. The cup of Jesus was completely full, not because he was a demigod, but because he was fully human resisting temptation and entirely obedient to the Father so that the presence of God, those instructions as the Word of God as well as the Spirit, was fully within him, making a human God to be the kind of Messiah promised to David that would rule an everlasting kingdom. Which is again is entirely biblical: if human kings, prophets, tabernacle builders, etc. can have some presence of God, then the human Messiah can have the full presence of God.
So the message isn't about Gods turning into men and back into Gods, or endless Gods, or about Gods having the sexual times of their lives: it's about making the human Messiah equal to God so that he can effectively rule an everlasting kingdom, as promised to David.
And that's what LDS seems to completely ignore.
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