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  • #31
    Originally posted by DesertBerean View Post
    You think?
    Sometimes, but it really hurts.
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
      God sustaining the universe to the point of reducing entropy to null?
      Whole new creation. Current physics need not apply.
      Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        Rev 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
        Oh! Now I get it. You were saying the Lake of Fire might ruin the New Earth.

        I tend to think of that as metaphorical
        O Gladsome Light of the Holy Glory of the Immortal Father, Heavenly, Holy, Blessed Jesus Christ! Now that we have come to the setting of the sun and behold the light of evening, we praise God Father, Son and Holy Spirit. For meet it is at all times to worship Thee with voices of praise. O Son of God and Giver of Life, therefore all the world doth glorify Thee.

        A neat video of dead languages!

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        • #34
          Apostoli, if you're still there, this short video describes what I mean about spiritual bodies a lot better than I can, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jNaVgyqUD8
          O Gladsome Light of the Holy Glory of the Immortal Father, Heavenly, Holy, Blessed Jesus Christ! Now that we have come to the setting of the sun and behold the light of evening, we praise God Father, Son and Holy Spirit. For meet it is at all times to worship Thee with voices of praise. O Son of God and Giver of Life, therefore all the world doth glorify Thee.

          A neat video of dead languages!

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