If some of our muslim (or bahai) friends, like siam want Christians to believe in their Quran, then some really serious re-thinking needs to be done, by such muslim propagandists, to convince us that the Quran does contain some semblance of truth worth believing.
When people or propagandists, like siam, claim that the Quran is 'a dictation' from an original in heaven, it only makes siam's case worse. Then the original 'mother of the book', or 'ummul kitab' (QS13/39) itself was the source of the errors and misrepresentations of reality that are found abundantly in the Quran. An "eternal error and flaw".
So, for example, in Sura 6/101 it claims "How can God have a Son, when he does not have a wife." Repeated in sura 72/3 "He (God) has not taken a wife (consort) or a son..". & in many other places of the quran this misrepresentation is repeated, ad nauseum
The Bible, the Gospels and Christians have never believed nor accepted the notion and view, that Jesus Christ is the Son of God through biological or sexual reproduction! We repudiate this perverse idea that the quran impugns on us, baselessly.
In John 1 v.13 it is said that Children of God were "were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God." So there was absolutely no physical or sexual relationship ever involved between "God and a wife"! (perish the thought), as what the quranic verses erroneously claim.
Another clear flaw and erroneous claim of the Quran is that "Christians worship three gods", comprising of: God the father, the Virgin Mary
And their Son (5/116), etc
By the time of muhamad's birth the Church long already had an orthodox Creed which all Christians confessed & professed. None ever confessed to a divine "Father, Mother and Son" Trinity!
The Nicene Creed of the Church, which was the orthodox creedal confession 300 years before the existence of muhamed, prophet of islam, never subscribed to the "Trinity" of surah 5/116! This ayat of surah 5 is nothing more than a gross misrepresentation of the Christian Holy Trinity, which really was "God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit".
Now, if the Quran was truly a "dictation" from the original 'mother of the Book' (Q13/39) then this mother of the Quran is therefore already fundamentally flawed and erroneous, itself (or herself)!
The above two misrepresentations of the quran are sufficient evidence to dismiss the Quran and its "source" as grossly imperfect and flawed. If they cannot get the basic fundamentals of the Christian Gospel right, from the very beginning, then the Quran is really not worth believing in by ANY measure, its just superbly flawed!
When people or propagandists, like siam, claim that the Quran is 'a dictation' from an original in heaven, it only makes siam's case worse. Then the original 'mother of the book', or 'ummul kitab' (QS13/39) itself was the source of the errors and misrepresentations of reality that are found abundantly in the Quran. An "eternal error and flaw".
So, for example, in Sura 6/101 it claims "How can God have a Son, when he does not have a wife." Repeated in sura 72/3 "He (God) has not taken a wife (consort) or a son..". & in many other places of the quran this misrepresentation is repeated, ad nauseum
The Bible, the Gospels and Christians have never believed nor accepted the notion and view, that Jesus Christ is the Son of God through biological or sexual reproduction! We repudiate this perverse idea that the quran impugns on us, baselessly.
In John 1 v.13 it is said that Children of God were "were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God." So there was absolutely no physical or sexual relationship ever involved between "God and a wife"! (perish the thought), as what the quranic verses erroneously claim.
Another clear flaw and erroneous claim of the Quran is that "Christians worship three gods", comprising of: God the father, the Virgin Mary
And their Son (5/116), etc
By the time of muhamad's birth the Church long already had an orthodox Creed which all Christians confessed & professed. None ever confessed to a divine "Father, Mother and Son" Trinity!
The Nicene Creed of the Church, which was the orthodox creedal confession 300 years before the existence of muhamed, prophet of islam, never subscribed to the "Trinity" of surah 5/116! This ayat of surah 5 is nothing more than a gross misrepresentation of the Christian Holy Trinity, which really was "God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit".
Now, if the Quran was truly a "dictation" from the original 'mother of the Book' (Q13/39) then this mother of the Quran is therefore already fundamentally flawed and erroneous, itself (or herself)!
The above two misrepresentations of the quran are sufficient evidence to dismiss the Quran and its "source" as grossly imperfect and flawed. If they cannot get the basic fundamentals of the Christian Gospel right, from the very beginning, then the Quran is really not worth believing in by ANY measure, its just superbly flawed!
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