It seems this question has quite a bit of controversy for both Atheist and Christians. Arguments from both sides reject that there can be an objective morality, Christians reject a science of morality without God to define give morals a objective standard. Other atheist and agnostics argue that good is relative and that what is good or moral for one person is different for someone else. I reject both of these claims to argue that morality is based on the suffer vs well-being of conscious individuals that exist on a continuum. Causing unjustified suffering among a conscious individual is the definition of an immoral action.
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Originally posted by AlecWelsh View PostHow is it different than the law and morality topic under the same sub section?
You shouldn't create a new thread though, just ask a mod move this one to a more appropriate area (or wait for one to do it of their own accord).
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Originally posted by AlecWelsh View PostHow is it different than the law and morality topic under the same sub section?
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Originally posted by AlecWelsh View PostIt seems this question has quite a bit of controversy for both Atheist and Christians. Arguments from both sides reject that there can be an objective morality, Christians reject a science of morality without God to define give morals a objective standard. Other atheist and agnostics argue that good is relative and that what is good or moral for one person is different for someone else. I reject both of these claims to argue that morality is based on the suffer vs well-being of conscious individuals that exist on a continuum. Causing unjustified suffering among a conscious individual is the definition of an immoral action.That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by AlecWelsh View PostI reject both of these claims to argue that morality is based on the suffer vs well-being of conscious individuals that exist on a continuum. Causing unjustified suffering among a conscious individual is the definition of an immoral action."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostWhy does it matter if we are nothing more than cosmic accidents and coincidences? And what makes our species so different that we can cause unjust suffering among other species, but not our own?
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostSo you claim. How is this "objective"? It looks like it's just your opinion to me.
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Originally posted by AlecWelsh View PostIt matters because if this is the only life we get how we spend it is all that matters, and any individual should be allowed to experience the only life they have with as much opportunity for well-being as they can get.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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