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Here in the Philosophy forum we will talk about all the "why" questions. We'll have conversations about the way in which philosophy and theology and religion interact with each other. Metaphysics, ontology, origins, truth? They're all fair game so jump right in and have some fun! But remember...play nice!
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThe God we serve is not just omniscient, but omnipotent - all-powerful. Such a God knows all there is to know, and all that will ever be, and has created all there is.Last edited by JimL; 09-08-2019, 07:19 PM.
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Originally posted by seer View PostShuny, I used your own link, there are different beliefs on how much God intervened or not within Theistic Evolution. But here is the question, your religion teaches that evolution is God directed. Do you agree with that?Last edited by shunyadragon; 09-08-2019, 08:23 PM.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe natural laws had to in some sense already exist in order that a god utilize them for creation, otherwise laws wouldn't even be needed for a god to create. Your only argument would be that the natural laws are eternal with the mind of god, and that's why he knows them, but again, if the natural laws are eternal, it would render the god unecessary.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThe God we serve is not just omniscient, but omnipotent - all-powerful. Such a God knows all there is to know, and all that will ever be, and has created all there is.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostYes, of course, and that is not issue in the difference between Theistic Evolution and Intelligent Design. No there are not many different views within the concept of Theistic Evolution as defined. Basically Theistic Evolution recognizes that Creation takes place in complete harmony with how the knowledge of science describes evolution and the history of our physical existence. God Creates through natural methods. It is a matter of fact of your years of posts you do not accept this. and as referenced Intelligent Design does not accept this either.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostCertainly, many religions believe this. But then the religions evolved before the advent of scientific methodology. The latter is better placed to explore such questions as the origins of the universe than the unsubstantiated formula of the religions.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seer View PostThen Shuny, if God directs the evolutionary process then it could not have happened on its own. Nature with out that Divine direction could not have done it. You agree?
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIf god creates according to natural processes, as shuny contends, then the natural processes, laws etc., already existed thus leaving a creator unecessary. Nature without divine intervention follows it's own direction.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNo. I'm arguing that an existing natural law leaves unnecessary the need for a creator, or director thereof.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostSo where did natural law come from? Your mythical Cosmos that you have no evidence for?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seer View PostSo where did natural law come from? Your mythical Cosmos that you have no evidence for?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostANYTHING to eliminate the need for God.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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