Are Thoughts Causal?

[shunyadragon]

You're actually supposed to provide some of that supposed evidence after making such an assertion. So we can have a look at it and seeing if it actually points to the conclusion that you claim.

more to follow . . .

This research provides confirmation of the neurological link from the mind, thinking, and changing one's mind. It describes communications between regions of the brain to coordinate the changing one's mind even in split second decisions.

Source: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-neuroscience-of-changing-your-mind/

The Neuroscience of Changing Your Mind

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[JimL]

Are thoughts causal? I think so!

To be causal, a mental state needn't necessarily come from a distinct source (an immaterial mind) from that of the physical brain itself.

[seer]

Pansychism Chrawnus. It is the theory that mind is inherent in matter. It's not new, but it's catching on with many in the field.

Pansychism: the doctrine or belief that everything material, however small, has an element of individual consciousness.

Sounds like the omnipresent mind of God...In any case it would solve the hard problem of consciousness.

[shunyadragon]

Pansychism: the doctrine or belief that everything material, however small, has an element of individual consciousness.

Sounds like the omnipresent mind of God...In any case it would solve the hard problem of consciousness.

There is no hard problem of consciousness. Consciousness is pretty much unversal with mammals and likely other animals.

[seer]

There is no hard problem of consciousness. Consciousness is pretty much unversal with mammals and likely other animals.

Oh stop, you are completely clueless...

[DesertBerean]

Sounds like they propose modifying REACTION time in order to help the brain/body coordination of actions to avoid the consequences of poor decisions.

I don't relly think that applies directly to avoidance or breaking of addiction and other complusive behavior. That involves exercise of self-control - a deliberate chain of thought leading to decision.

[shunyadragon]

Oh stop, you are completely clueless...

No, just not clinging to ancient world view at the expense of science.

The best you can do with the bogus 'hard problem of consciousness is 'arguing from ignorance' in a grade D movie scifi plot.

Consciousness simply exists in the higher life forms of life on earth noting more nothing less.

[shunyadragon]

Oh stop, you are completely clueless...

Completely clueless(?) with scientific references, which you have not responded to.

[Zara]

No, just not clinging to ancient world view at the expense of science.

The only person undermining science, is you. Trust me, your hackneyed one liners are doing more harm to your precious "science" than people exercising their choice to believe in God.

The best you can do with the bogus 'hard problem of consciousness is 'arguing from ignorance' in a grade D movie scifi plot.

The problem isn't bogus, you just make it out to be so because it doesn't fit your brainless narrative. You don't know what it is, do you? Have a read: http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/..._consciousness

[shunyadragon]

The only person undermining science, is you. Trust me, your hackneyed one liners are doing more harm to your precious "science" than people exercising their choice to believe in God.




The problem isn't bogus, you just make it out to be so because it doesn't fit your brainless narrative. You don't know what it is, do you? Have a read: http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/..._consciousness

Temper, temper. . . ranting personal attacks are unwarranted and unethical on this website. Are you going to keep doing this followed up with apologies?

[Zara]

Temper, temper. . . ranting personal attacks are unwarranted and unethical on this website. Are you going to keep doing this followed up with apologies?

You don't know what it is, do you? Have a read: http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/..._consciousness

[seer]

No, just not clinging to ancient world view at the expense of science.

The best you can do with the bogus 'hard problem of consciousness is 'arguing from ignorance' in a grade D movie scifi plot.

Consciousness simply exists in the higher life forms of life on earth noting more nothing less.

The hard problem of consciousness idiot is not a bogus problem, as Sam Harris says:

The problem, however, is that no evidence for consciousness exists in the physical worldThe only thing in this universe that attests to the existence of consciousness is consciousness itself; the only clue to subjectivity, as such, is subjectivity. Absolutely nothing about a brain, when surveyed as a physical system, suggests that it is a locus of experience. . The painfulness of pain, for instance, puts in an appearance only in consciousness. And no description of C-fibers or pain-avoiding behavior will bring the subjective reality into view...

...Most scientists are confident that consciousness emerges from unconscious complexity. We have compelling reasons for believing this, because the only signs of consciousness we see in the universe are found in evolved organisms like ourselves. .

https://samharris.org/the-mystery-of-consciousness/

[seer]

Temper, temper. . . ranting personal attacks are unwarranted and unethical on this website. Are you going to keep doing this followed up with apologies?

And Shuny you believe that humans have a spirit and that spirit interacts with the physical world as your religion teaches - correct?

[shunyadragon]

The only person undermining science, is you. Trust me, your hackneyed one liners are doing more harm to your precious "science" than people exercising their choice to believe in God.




The problem isn't bogus, you just make it out to be so because it doesn't fit your brainless narrative. You don't know what it is, do you? Have a read: http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/..._consciousness

Your book reference is over 20 years old, and I do not agree with it's philosophical conclusions of 'arguing from ignorance' as to what it claims we do not know.

I like this reference as a beginning that simple looks matter of factly at the nature of consciousness, and mind brain problems:http://www.cogsci.rpi.edu/~heuveb/te...odyProblem.pdf

[seer]

I like this reference as a beginning that simple looks matter of factly at the nature of consciousness, and mind brain problems:http://www.cogsci.rpi.edu/~heuveb/te...odyProblem.pdf

And there is no conclusion in your link, and I quote:

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