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Here in the Philosophy forum we will talk about all the "why" questions. We'll have conversations about the way in which philosophy and theology and religion interact with each other. Metaphysics, ontology, origins, truth? They're all fair game so jump right in and have some fun! But remember...play nice!
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostSo human beings were determined by the laws of nature to evolve as we did or evolve at all?
What the science of evolution has demonstrate is that evolution did takes place of billions of years, and the result is the human species. The science has demonstrated that after extinction events, very very morphological similar species arise again given the same environment, demonstrated that the Laws of Nature, and the environment are the overwhelming cause of the outcome of evolution for a time.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostSeer your arguing in circles from a perspective that you deny evolution completely as science that has been demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt. Your arguments are couched in an 'argument from ignorance' as to what your assertion is 'what has to take place.' Your misusing the concept of randomness to justify your agenda, and not remotely trying to understand science.
What the science of evolution has demonstrate is that evolution did takes place of billions of years, and the result is the human species. The science has demonstrated that after extinction events, very very morphological similar species arise again given the same environment, demonstrated that the Laws of Nature, and the environment are the overwhelming cause of the outcome of evolution for a time.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostI will ask again Shuny, were human beings determined by the laws of nature to evolve as we did or evolve at all? Yes or no?
Seer your arguing in circles from a perspective that you deny evolution completely as science that has been demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt. Your arguments are couched in an 'argument from ignorance' as to what your assertion is 'what has to take place.' Your misusing the concept of randomness to justify your agenda, and not remotely trying to understand science.
What the science of evolution has demonstrate is that evolution did takes place of billions of years, and the result is the human species. The science has demonstrated that after extinction events, very very morphological similar species arise again given the same environment, demonstrated that the Laws of Nature, and the environment are the overwhelming cause of the outcome of evolution for a time.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostAgain, again and again . . .
Seer your arguing in circles from a perspective that you deny evolution completely as science that has been demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt. Your arguments are couched in an 'argument from ignorance' as to what your assertion is 'what has to take place.' Your misusing the concept of randomness to justify your agenda, and not remotely trying to understand science.
What the science of evolution has demonstrate is that evolution did takes place of billions of years, and the result is the human species. The science has demonstrated that after extinction events, very very morphological similar species arise again given the same environment, demonstrated that the Laws of Nature, and the environment are the overwhelming cause of the outcome of evolution for a time.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostYou are fibbing again Shuny, I am not arguing in a circle, but you will not answer a straight question, again: were human beings determined by the laws of nature to evolve as we did or evolve at all? Yes or no?
It is clear and specific by definition that the outcome of evolution is predictable based on the Laws of Nature and the environment. Only the outcome of an individual event in evolution such as one mutation can be considered random.
Seer your arguing in circles from a perspective that you deny evolution completely as science that has been demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt. Your arguments are couched in an 'argument from ignorance' as to what your assertion is 'what has to take place.' Your misusing the concept of randomness to justify your agenda, and not remotely trying to understand science.
What the science of evolution has demonstrate is that evolution did takes place of billions of years, and the result is the human species. The science has demonstrated that after extinction events, very very morphological similar species arise again given the same environment, demonstrated that the Laws of Nature, and the environment are the overwhelming cause of the outcome of evolution for a time.
Science only can test the fact that evolution is repeatably predictable throughout the millennia, billions of years, up until the present without random outcomes. Arguing that the the outcome could be different is hypothetical, and beyond the ability of science and crystal balls. Based on the outcomes, we have no reason to believe that there is a wide variation of the outcomes, or for that matter any variation in the outcomes.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostIt is clear and specific by definition that the outcome of evolution is predictable based on the Laws of Nature and the environment. Only the outcome of an individual event in evolution such as one mutation can be considered random.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostYou are avoiding again Shuny, there is no evidence that human beings were determined by the laws of nature to evolve as we did or evolve at all. There is no scientific evidence that the laws of nature determined that bio-genesis would happen on this earth. Random.
Again, again, and again . . .
You reject the science of evolution as 'a priori' to any dialogue we have. You have little or no knowledge, and hold a distinctly fundamentalist view of Creation. This is the crux of the argument.Last edited by shunyadragon; 03-08-2019, 06:11 PM.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostALL the evidence of the science of evolution has determined that the Laws of Nature and the environment determine the course of evolution. All the present evidence we have at present indicates that abiogenesis and biogenesis occurs naturally in given environments. The science of evolution is based on the predictability and falsification of hypothesis like all science and consistent. All I can do here is present the scientific evidence and correct your misuse of concepts like randomness.
Again, again, and again . . .
You reject the science of evolution as 'a priori' to any dialogue we have. You have little or no knowledge, and hold a distinctly fundamentalist view of Creation. This is the crux of the argument.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostShuny, no one believes that life on earth was inevitable, nor was it inevitable that we evolved as we did or evolve at all. There was chance all along the way.
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Originally posted by seer View PostShuny, no one believes that life on earth was inevitable, nor was it inevitable that we evolved as we did or evolve at all. There was chance all along the way.
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You express your ignorance and fundamentalist agenda, and I present the sources.Last edited by shunyadragon; 03-08-2019, 08:10 PM.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostAnother scientist draws the same conclusions:
These scientists I cited express my view that life and evolution is inevitable based on the Laws of Nature, and the environment. Of course it remains problematic, because you a priori reject science. I can provide more . . .Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostAgain . . .
You express your ignorance and fundamentalist agenda, and I present the sources.
Accidents of evolution that made us human
https://www.newscientist.com/round-u...man-evolution/Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostNonsense Shuny, you take a couple of theories that have not been proven, because in fact we can not replicate the conditions nor do we know the actual biological process that took place. And it was not inevitable that the earth would have the conditions for life, nor, again was it inevitable that humans would develop as we did or at all. Who believes that?
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